Hey all, those of you wanting to raise Red shiner, I have some advice for ya... If the young don't show up the first full summer, don't panic just yet. I have a 3rd pond that had some fhm in that I stocked about 100-110 Reds in around mid summer 2020 at a friends place and just like with my forage pond, it showed nothing last summer. We ran some traps the last 2 days and his pond is FULL of 2" reds. Don't give up on them early.