Thanks for the insight on moving the dirt, I probably will be behind all day, but we got 3" of rain last week and that's about 1/4 of our yearly rainfall so now I've got a few inches of water back in the pond, so the project just got tougher... I appreciate the tips about working in these conditions and we'll try and see what we can accomplish... Too bad the rain didn't wait just a little longer... but things can't ever be too easy can they??? Thanks again for all the helps... Later J