I can only speak on the Optimal. I put an order in one evening and it was at my door the next day while I was at work. Wife sent me a picture at lunch time with a big box with a fish on it sayin wht is this. Prolly thinkin I ordered some fish.

The people who say I can't do it can just sit the @^#% down and watch me. Friends call me Rusto I also subscribe to pond boss mag. http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=504716#Post504716