Sent a package to the ACOE based on a conversation with the local NRCS contact in the county. The ACOE replied back that no permit was required and I have that in writing now. The NRCS indicated that they would not recommend to build in that area and they would not fund any construction there. Well I really didn't expect them to build my pond anyway so no loss. I am talking with a couple builders now and getting quotes. The one guy believes the site is well setup for a large pond and it's really about how much dirt we have to move. The location has clay like soil and a couple smaller ponds are holding water even in dry periods .