I figured out why they died. Just cant figure out why it happened........They quit breathing.... That's as bout as close to an expert opinion that I have. I have heard on here before that bass dont go in traps good. Snrub has had a small trap in there from time to time and as far as I know didnt get any of them. Full of RES and FHM.

The people who say I can't do it can just sit the @^#% down and watch me. Friends call me Rusto I also subscribe to pond boss mag. http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=504716#Post504716