I will plan on keeping everyone posts win or lose. I put them out in my shop its insulted but only lit the fireplace a few times. Prolly got in the upper 40's at the lowest. I figured I would be lucky if they made it but worth a try. I put them ose to a window so they would get some sunlight but still wasnt much. These are water hyacinth. Theybdont look near as good as they did then they were removed for sure.