I'm with bill (I wont say weak). I have to be honest some of that stuff in the magazine is over my head with all the numbers. I just want my pond to look like it should be on a golf course. Not trump's golf course (sorry had to). I'm mostly bout the looks. Now dont get me wrong not much more I love than a kid catching a fish. They get pure joy out anything and any size. I do subscribe mainly just because I feel like I should because the love of this forum.