Thanks for the input guys. I did put a good bit of man made structure in and have a good bit of lilly pads but the minnows are still staying in around the edges. They do seem to be staying away from the bass for the most part but Im sure they are getting some. Only seems to be a couple bass left in the pond. Blue gills did great this year. Seeing thousands of them around the dock and structures. I like the pallet idea. May have to try that and hopefully they will spawn some too. This is an awesome forum by the way.