Thank y'all for the assistance I can't tell you how helpful it is to have this forum. I am hoping the Father's Day fairy will bring me a subscription to the magazine.

We have a guy locally that makes traps out of concrete wire and net that resemble a hoop net but don't require the cuurent to stay open. They're reasonably priced and prolly work better than anything I could build.

The shock boat sounds interesting, does anybody know of someone that does the electroshocking in my area?

Today we tried cut bait fished on the bottom and managed to remove a 4# grinnel but educated two more, one of which flopped back in after I landed it.

Scholars have long known that fishing eventually turns men into philosophers. Unfortunately, it is almost impossible to buy decent tackle on a philosopher's salary. ~Patrick F. McManus