I had a feeling this was part of the path I could not walk down. Extreme fine tuning with highest potential fish by selective harvesting. I just have too many fish, way too many individuals to track consistent. And no way am I ever tagging. Thanks for coming back and writing in your own style. I thoroughly enjoy your posts. And when you said in some ways my management style and goals are more difficult than yours, I respectfully disagree. I can half ass it and get away with good results. You are just downright perfectionist. The results speak for themselves. Good for you jig and pig. I'll tell you one thing, I am starting ponds where I will be able to use some of your methods. Thanks for all of the tips. Your input to this forum is invaluable, especially to a multiple pond guy like me.