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...I look forward to an aerial shot about next Fall.
Me too, Theo....me too.
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Looks like a meteorite hit.
would'a been more cost effective
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looks like at time of pic, there is water in the pond basin (as the really light brown in deepest areas)?
Yep, it had just started to back up; maybe 4 feet deep in the wide/flat basin afronting the dam. (for a lack of better description) the puddle is shaped like a morel mushroom; the bottom of the stem in the SE and the top of the cap in the NW.
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hopefully you get along with that one neighbor to the north.

We actively reached out to all our bordering neighbors. Kinda funny, as we mentioned the names of the other neighbors to each that we were actively visiting, they would usually respond with "sorry, who's that?". Anyway, based on our best job of diplomacy, I feel much better than worse on the results.
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also, assuming north is straight up, what is the clearing on east side of property.....looks like soil is exposed there or rock outcrop
This is an area of 1.75 ac that is a meadow. It had a short hump of dirt with a few ratty trees in it. When the dozer was on site, we had him "pretty up the hump" to create a pad for building a gazebo viewing platform. The plan is to plant a shelterbelt of conifers across the north border (yes, north is up), closing off this meadow with trees at all four sides (there is a thin tree line along the east edge, beneath the yellow property line I inserted). Then, the entire area is gonna get loaded with native grasses and wildflowers. We want this to be a special "destination zone" to balance off the timber.
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...the view of the meadow, standing south of the small "building pad hump", and looking north. The north end of the treeline along the east edge can be seen right of frame. We will begin the shelterbelt at that point and stretch it west (to the left), effectively closing off this area with trees (someday).


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i would like to know if it is wise to put some kind of plant growth on the bottom of the pond [hydro seed spread hay] to prevent silt build up


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MTB, I wouldn't do that. You could easily (I have) wound up with a rotted mess of formerly green stuff.


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I've heard of them planting rye grass prior to filling a lake to prevent erosion and to "jump start the ecosystem." I still don't know what they meant, like DD1 it seems to me it would just end up as dead muck once it filled but am interested in an explaination of what the article meant.




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IIRC the theory is grass provides a substrate for aquatic plants and invertebrates to live on.

We just planted down about 2' below the eventual waterline, for erosion control before the pond filled. I suppose that's deep enough in most ponds to cover the light-penetrating zone in case there's anything to the above theory.


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There was a thread some time ago started with a question about types of grass at the pond perimeter. IIRC ( ;\) ) Bob Lusk said to plant the grass well past the future shoreline and below the normal pool line. Something regarding the benefits of the underwater vegetation.

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** 3/24/07 UPDATE **
Well, the ice is long gone. Ed Eitel asked a vexing question during the January freeze:
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as your pond level rises, do your fish attracting devices rise also with the ice? (Only to be moved when ice thaws).
Whoa, that one spooked me. It appears that the fish structure fared well. I can barely see the tops of the remaining visible tire pyramids; they look fine. All the tires and PVC trees, on Sunil's Mound are totally submerged. The tops of the rest of the PVC trees at the reef and Theo's Cluster are barely visible, but they are all still there. Most of them are tipped over a bit; I contribute that to ice shift. Who cares, right?
I haven't posted pics of progress since the end of January. I have been to the project once since that time, but the only changes were 18" of snow; not post-worthy. D-ski and I visited yesterday, after a week of significant rain through the midwest. Yeah baby; she's comin' on. We picked up a little over 2 more feet of water elevation. We are 3'-2" from normal pool.
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The standard reference shot from the building site:

A few more milestones have been achieved. The sand beach is just beginning to slip below the surface. As noted above, the PVC trees and tire pyramids are about 6" from gone.
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The reference shot from the dam, looking back to the building site.
The launch and dock/deck are just right of building pad. The beach and beach dock are left/frame.
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...taken from the edge of the wetland area.

The structure reef is in the water foreground; almost gone. On the opposite shore, the cribs and saucers are almost gone. The water has reached the edge of the woods. The slope of the grade back into the timber is mostly gentle, so 3 more feet of water will flood it nicely. One of the 2 draws that feeds us water is in this zone. It has just started to back up water with the arrival of this new depth. Recent rains had it runnin' nice and smooth.

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Another valuable water feed is the drain tile. It was also anxious to share inflow.

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The dam is greening up fairly well. We planted it with cereal rye last fall to stabilize erosion.

This entire area will soon be prepared for warm weather native grasses, shrubs, and a heavy dose of wildflowers. In fact, the entire perimeter of the pond is slated for vegetation development in a few weeks by use of the NRCS W.H.I.P. program.
D-ski and I have alot of work ahead, all necessary to benefit nature and fulfillment of dreams. All in all, the progress is pleasing and rewarding.


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That should be plenty of water for your wild friends to drink and play in.


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Man that's a beautiful pond!


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Originally posted by Limb Bream:
Man that's a beautiful pond!
I second that! Check out B-ski's web site for more information. He has had an amazing journey with this project.

B\'ski\'s web site


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Cool website too! Looks like B'ski put as much time into is website as he did into the pond.


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Brettski, your pond/lake is really looking awesome! When do you plan to start stocking?

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fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish,fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, fish, when ya puttin in some fish.......??

how fun has it been to watch this project from the beginning? great update b'ski.


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All together now and along with the badger music -- FISH , Fish , FISH , Fish , fish , fish .... little bitty fishy....

FISH ,Fish FISH ,Fish, fish, fish.... little bitty fishy.

FISH , Fish , FISH , Fish , fish , fish .... little bitty fishy....

FISH ,Fish FISH ,Fish, fish, fish ..... little bitty fishy.

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Fish heads, fish heads...roly-poly fish heads...
I've been workin' the phones to find the right vendor with the right inventory with the right quality at the right price (yeah, one of my many hats was purchasing agent for many years). When I get it dialed in a little more, I'll post the details of the forage on the Fathead thread and the stock on the Fish adoption thread . For the record, and to quell any notion that DD1 has promoted:
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We know you well enough by now to know that the stocking plan is anything but settled. I figure you're about 3 days away from pumping this sucker dry and adding more structure.
...the plan remains the same as FH, RES, YP, and SMB.
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...as always, thanks for the continued support and encouragement. This includes Dave; I know he means well.

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Sideline heckling is such a thankless job!


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"She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."

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But somebody has to do it.


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4/1/07 UPDATE
No significant change from a week ago. We picked up about 4" more water elevation. We spent the day, as usual, working on peripheral projects. One very important project is installation of a hooded inlet. When we get it completed, target this coming weekend, I will post a couple of pics. It might spark some discussion as I don't recall a lot of forum activity on that little detail.
Anyway, I measure normal pool as 2' -11" away. Another 6" of water and Theo's cluster (left/frame) is a goner. Forecasts for this coming week seem to indicate that to be a foregone conclusion.


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B-ski she's looking real real nice, I can really see the beach now. The hooded inlet I put in my silt pond has worked great thus far. I put 6 inch sq field wire around the sides it really keeps the big stuff from entering the pipe. I know your contractor didn't recommend it but I think you should consider it. Ever thing that clogs up a drain floats. Once the water level goes above the hood so does all the floating debre and the water exits below. The screening is just to keep the logs and limbs out, the openings are still big enough to allow leafs and grass thru. Keep up the good work my friend.



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4/28/07 UPDATE
It continues to be a pretty wet spring...and I continue to be surprised by the steady surges of increased volume. I am beginning to see a very acceptable pattern of inflow that actually exceeds my expectations. It seems that even when we get a gully washer rain, my inflow is only strong...not substantial. Yes, maybe a little slow, but maybe not. As of this weekend, we are 25" short of full pool. Considering we corked it up last July, we have moved along very steadily for nearly 10 months. There have been some killer rainstorms, but we never experienced overwhelming inflow. Only a steady, strong increase. I like it.

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We are now easing into the next new eye-candy experience as the trees fill in. Yep, pleased so far.

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I would like to fish that pond someday. It looks fun.


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He's halfway in between us, Bruce. Meet you for shore lunch. You catch and clean, I'll cook and eat.

Brettski, when that pond is full and those trees are leafed out (say in a month), that pond is going to look gorgeously mature.


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He's halfway in between us, Bruce. Meet you for shore lunch. You catch and clean, I'll cook and eat.

....better bring real tiny hooks and forks
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I was just stitching up a few pano's from yesterday's visit and a kinda cool comparative thought hit me.



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That big grassy secluded area would be a great place for a deer feeder in the fall. Then move it to the lake in spring and it could double as a fish feeder for those YP. \:D
















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Brettski,

Rest assured, you will leave this world a more beautiful place than you found it. Thanks for letting us hitch a ride.

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