Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
OldGreg, Vermilion1218, SteveinSC, williams111, pluvpatrick
18,916 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics41,664
Posts566,439
Members18,916
Most Online6,374
Jun 17th, 2025
Top Posters
esshup 29,166
ewest 21,751
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 15,572
Who's Online Now
6 members (barry@rheins.com, FishinRod, Drago, Bill Cody, Jason D, LeighAnn), 1,376 guests, and 50 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#570535 09/23/24 01:42 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 519
Likes: 36
T
tim k Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
T
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 519
Likes: 36
Should I run rhem 24-7 during the winter or should I cut them back some?

tim k #570551 09/23/24 09:15 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,572
Likes: 1254
B
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Online Content
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
B
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,572
Likes: 1254
It depends on what the winter snow and ice cover is and how long the water water temperature is below 48F.


aka Pond Doctor & Dr. Perca Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
tim k #570557 09/24/24 07:06 AM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 14,363
Likes: 416
Moderator
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Lunker
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 14,363
Likes: 416
Someone familiar with the Winters near Lampasas could give a more definitive answer, but Bill has laid out the ground rules. If I may attempt to expand, below 48deg dissolved O2 is high and fish metabolism is low, therefore aeration is not (nearly as) warranted. But if you get dirty ice/snow cover that blocks sunlight from penetrating into the pond, plants produce no O2 and the plants and fish are both consuming it. Under these conditions you want to do SOME aeration (enough to blow a hole through the ice, not so much that you cause supercooling).


"Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever."
-S. M. Stirling
[Linked Image from i.pinimg.com]
tim k #570570 09/24/24 07:04 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 519
Likes: 36
T
tim k Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
T
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 519
Likes: 36
My bad - I am in Texas - very little snow or ice - typically an overall mild winter

tim k #570573 09/24/24 07:40 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,572
Likes: 1254
B
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Online Content
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
B
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,572
Likes: 1254
timK Whenever the water is at or below 50F and the pond does not have lots of dead muck bottom layer I would not run the aeration. At 50F the wind can pretty well mix the pond. If you want to be on the safe side you could run the aerator in winter 1 hr per day. Plus as Theo said the water at 50F holds a lot more DO. At 50F DO consumption by bacteria, phytoplankton (nite) and other life forms is a lot slower and less per day compared to water above 65F-70F.

Last edited by Bill Cody; 09/24/24 07:41 PM.

aka Pond Doctor & Dr. Perca Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
1 member likes this: jpsdad
Bill Cody #570596 09/25/24 09:26 AM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 519
Likes: 36
T
tim k Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
T
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 519
Likes: 36
Originally Posted by Bill Cody
timK Whenever the water is at or below 50F and the pond does not have lots of dead muck bottom layer I would not run the aeration. At 50F the wind can pretty well mix the pond. If you want to be on the safe side you could run the aerator in winter 1 hr per day. Plus as Theo said the water at 50F holds a lot more DO. At 50F DO consumption by bacteria, phytoplankton (nite) and other life forms is a lot slower and less per day compared to water above 65F-70F.


Thank you - good information

tim k #570709 09/30/24 04:56 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 519
Likes: 36
T
tim k Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
T
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 519
Likes: 36
anyone know of a good thermostat to be able to record the temperature in my pond - I assume the temp near the bank in shallow water is way different from the temp in deeper water??

tim k #570711 09/30/24 05:54 PM
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,378
Likes: 822
F
Lunker
Online Content
Lunker
F
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 4,378
Likes: 822
I just use an inexpensive swimming pool thermometer on a marked string so I can also get measurements at depth.

I doubt it is perfectly accurate, but for my purposes, I just need it to be "repeatable" to provide useful data.

tim k #570753 10/02/24 05:25 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 519
Likes: 36
T
tim k Offline OP
Member
OP Offline
Member
T
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 519
Likes: 36
thank you Sir for the info - I will try the pool thermometer

tim k #570883 10/10/24 01:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 62
Likes: 4
T
TEC Offline
Offline
T
Joined: Jan 2023
Posts: 62
Likes: 4
Amazon has a great "Boiler Thermometer" with a probe on a 33 ft wire for $16. I really like mine. It's amazing how much temperature difference there is in 2 ft of water compared to 16 ft.

Use search words on Amazon
Digital Thermometer High-Temperature Industrial Boiler Electronic Thermometers 10M Wire with Probe Temperature Sensor

Last edited by Bill Cody; 10/10/24 07:56 PM. Reason: added search words
tim k #573096 03/11/25 08:04 AM
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 149
Likes: 3
F
Offline
F
Joined: Nov 2015
Posts: 149
Likes: 3
question on runnig air in winter to keep hole open-how small of a pump can you go to? would a pump for say a 2000 gallon tank be enough to keep a hole in say 2 feet of water? 3 feet? Looking for next season so as not to run my full time summer pump.


half-acre pond, LMB, HBG, BG, GSH and CC ....goal is to
have fun fishing. And I subscribe!
Funky #573142 03/12/25 07:42 AM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 29,166
Likes: 1055
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 29,166
Likes: 1055
Originally Posted by Funky
question on runnig air in winter to keep hole open-how small of a pump can you go to? would a pump for say a 2000 gallon tank be enough to keep a hole in say 2 feet of water? 3 feet? Looking for next season so as not to run my full time summer pump.

The only way you are going to know for sure is to try it. I use a 1/4 hp rotary vane compressor.


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
tim k #573154 03/12/25 09:48 AM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,572
Likes: 1254
B
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Online Content
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
B
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,572
Likes: 1254
Also the benefit provided will depend on the quality, type, and style of diffuser used. Not all diffusers are equal. A coarse bubble diffuser might work best for your winter open water application. Experimentation may be needed to select the best diffuser for the compressor and air volume used.


aka Pond Doctor & Dr. Perca Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
1 member likes this: jpsdad
Bill Cody #573172 03/12/25 04:19 PM
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 14,363
Likes: 416
Moderator
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Lunker
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 14,363
Likes: 416
Originally Posted by Bill Cody
A coarse bubble diffuser might work best for your winter open water application.
A definite possibility. The shallow water diffusers I use to blow holes through ice are a membrane diffuser (pond 1) and an old airstone (pond 2 - not used at all in warm weather). The airstone, producing large bubbles, will make a hole in much less time than the membrane diffuser.


"Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever."
-S. M. Stirling
[Linked Image from i.pinimg.com]
1 member likes this: FishinRod
tim k #573174 03/12/25 07:10 PM
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,572
Likes: 1254
B
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Online Content
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
B
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,572
Likes: 1254
There are also coarse bubble membrane diffusers. esshup used one this winter from Zoro.


aka Pond Doctor & Dr. Perca Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Bill Cody #573214 03/15/25 11:58 AM
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 29,166
Likes: 1055
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 29,166
Likes: 1055
Originally Posted by Bill Cody
There are also coarse bubble membrane diffusers. esshup used one this winter from Zoro.

Correct. IIRC 5" diameter diffuser. 5' below water surface. 1/4 hp Gast rotary vane pump. It opened and kept open an area that was about 50'-70' diameter and the other side of the pond had 8"-12" ice on it. I'd run it for a few days, then shut it off for a few days. If we were supposed to get snow, I'd fire it up and leave it run until the snow was over with. I didn't mind if the area froze over as long as it was clean, non-snow covered ice.


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).

Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
Rksisk108
Recent Posts
Georgia shallow bass pond heating up
by FishinRod - 06/23/25 10:18 AM
Another fish growth thread
by Bill Cody - 06/23/25 09:32 AM
Just found Pond Boss
by Dave Davidson1 - 06/23/25 05:49 AM
What did you do at your pond today?
by Benchedthatpiece - 06/22/25 10:29 PM
Question about feeding / size of feed/etc.
by Theo Gallus - 06/22/25 07:36 PM
Suggestions for solar light as insect attractant?
by BJ Nick - 06/22/25 04:56 PM
Cognitive Testing of Fish
by Tinylake - 06/21/25 08:08 PM
Sampling New Bass
by ML10 - 06/21/25 02:40 PM
New pond. IL 5.5 acres
by Vermilion1218 - 06/21/25 08:57 AM
Fishing a Boyhood Swimming Hole !
by Dan H - 06/20/25 07:43 PM
Siphon system understanding and troubleshooting
by moukie - 06/20/25 07:36 PM
What Happened? Fish Dying
by Theo Gallus - 06/20/25 05:24 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Nice 12 Inch BGxRES
Nice 12 Inch BGxRES
by Theo Gallus, June 1
F1 Bass stocked 6/24 caught 3/30/25
F1 Bass stocked 6/24 caught 3/30/25
by lafarmpondguy, March 31
Couple of bream on poppers
Couple of bream on poppers
by lafarmpondguy, March 31
Koi
Koi
by PAfarmPondPGH69, October 22
2 1/4 pound BGxRES
2 1/4 pound BGxRES
by Theo Gallus, October 12
What you can do with an inch of nightcrawler
What you can do with an inch of nightcrawler
by Theo Gallus, September 21

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5