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I was told this might be a GSF x BG hybrid. I've never stocked this pond and to my knowledge it hasn't been stocked. Always assumed they were just big green sunfish. Not sure about the possibility of natural hybrids happening. What days you guys?

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I have the same fish and just assume all mutts are green sunfish in my ponds.


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That squarish body type sure looks like Green Sunfish to me.


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I reference the location of the jaw hinge for identifying bluegills vs green sunfish.

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I was under the impression that a green sunfish was a more longer than taller sunfish, more like a warmouth or rock bass.

This picture looks more like a hybrid than a GSF to me.


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Yes I agree with Sunil and ewest hybrid bluegill. It could be a 2nd or 3rd generation of hybrid bluegill. Hybrid bluegill do reproduce, just not as prolifically as BG. Definitely not a true or regular green sunfish.


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I was more commenting on the body style being more similar to the Green Sunfish than the BG if I was misunderstood.

Green Sunfish are more blocky or square vs the more round nature of the BG. No dispute that it is some sort of a cross.

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Originally Posted by Boondoggle
Green Sunfish are more blocky or square vs the more round nature of the BG.
I would say GSF are more fusiform, which is a $2 Bruce Condello word.


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The Green Sunfish has a thick body and large mouth, more closely related to bass than to other species of sunfish.The fins have a yellow tinge on fin edges like the one shown in Boondoggle's photo.

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Originally Posted by SENKOSAM
The Green Sunfish ... more closely related to bass than to other species of sunfish.
Incorrect. Green Sunfish, Bluegills, Redears, Pumpkinseeds, and several other sunfish are all members of the same Genus, Lepomis. This is why they can interbreed so easily and produce fertile hybrids.

Largemouth, Smallmouth, and the other Black Bass are members of a different Genus, Micropterus.


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Originally Posted by Theo Gallus
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The Green Sunfish ... more closely related to bass than to other species of sunfish.
Incorrect. Green Sunfish, Bluegills, Redears, Pumpkinseeds, and several other sunfish are all members of the same Genus, Lepomis. This is why they can interbreed so easily and produce fertile hybrids.

Largemouth, Smallmouth, and the other Black Bass are members of a different Genus, Micropterus.


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So these statements are incorrect?

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Officially, the largemouth bass is known by the scientific name of Micropterus salmoides. It is a species of black bass (genus Micropterus), which includes smallmouth and spotted bass and is in the sunfish family (Centrarchidae), which include bluegill sunfish and crappie.

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Smallmouth bass belong to the sunfish family (Centrarchidae), which also includes bluegill sunfish, spotted bass, crappie and largemouth bass.

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What was incorrect was that GSF are more closely related to LMB or SMB than they are to members of their own Genus. Which is what I stated.


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Sunfish (Centrarchid Fishes) genetics - Pond Boss Forum

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