Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
M4 Aquatics, TexasHomesteader, Jlphillips1, MississippiFish, Carpet Bagger
18,274 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics40,632
Posts553,148
Members18,274
Most Online3,612
Jan 10th, 2023
Top Posters
esshup 27,962
ewest 21,384
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 14,950
Who's Online Now
9 members (TexasHomesteader, Jason D, Bobbss, JoshMI, Chris Steelman, GarAreCool, Sunil, TEC, KenHorton), 1,019 guests, and 169 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Jul 2023
Posts: 11
P
Paula Offline OP
OP Offline
P
Joined: Jul 2023
Posts: 11
Hi Everyone, we have .35 acre, 8’ deep old quarry in which we swim. It is inundated with goldfish.
The bottom is covered in sand and silt, goldfish waste.Hence, The water is extremely murky. We installed bottom aerators, which I now realize is creating more of a mess.
In other words, the aeration stirs up the pond bottom (fish waste, silt, muck etc)
What are your thoughts re getting trout, sunfish and bass to deal with the goldfish?
We have been keeping aerators on all day.
How many hours per day should we keep the aerators on?
I was also told to ditch the bottom aerators and replace with top or fountain style aerators. Which would be very expensive as the bottom aerators were expensive.
Thank you for your thoughts and comments.

Attached Images
IMG_1143.jpeg IMG_1198.jpeg
Last edited by Paula; 09/19/23 08:50 AM.
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 13,773
Likes: 220
Moderator
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Lunker
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 13,773
Likes: 220
Howdy right back atcha.

If you can pull the diffusers up and put a plate/can/metal or plastic sheet* underneath them, and then replace them, you should be able to avoid having the bubbles stir up bottom sediment. They would still be below 99% of the water column, so they will still add oxygen to help decompose the goldfish poop.

Surface aeration probably won't get oxygen down to the bottom as well as bottom diffusers.

If you are not worried about fish health (which can call for different aeration hours depending on several factors), I'd guess all day long is best for the purpose of aiding decomposition on the bottom.

*I have used a non-functional stove exhaust hood for this purpose.


"Live like you'll die tomorrow, but manage your grass like you'll live forever."
-S. M. Stirling
[Linked Image from i.pinimg.com]
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 27,962
Likes: 644
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 27,962
Likes: 644
For a .35 acre 8' deep pond that is overrun with goldfish, I'd find someone in your area that has an aquatic applicators license and have them apply Rotenone to the pond to kill all the goldfish, then start over with the fish that you want. Once the goldfish are gone the issues that you have with the bottom diffusers should go away after the aerobic bacteria gets to working on the organic sediment. I agree with Theo, raise the diffusers 4" or so up off the bottom and your issues should go away once the goldfish are gone.


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 14,950
Likes: 407
B
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
B
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 14,950
Likes: 407
Over abundant goldfish(GF) are notorious for making the water turbid in the visibility of 12" - 16" or less. Once GF are over crowded and as adults (8"-12"),,, IMO no predator will ever be able to get them back to low density where the water has clarity of 1.5 to 2 meters or more. If it were mine, I would eradicate all the fish and start over or you will fight overcrowded GF with lots of frustration for many years.

Last edited by Bill Cody; 09/20/23 08:06 PM.

aka Pond Doctor & Dr. Perca Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
1 member likes this: esshup
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 2,848
Likes: 128
C
Offline
C
Joined: May 2013
Posts: 2,848
Likes: 128
If there are no other desirable or hard to replace fish in the pond except goldfish and you are OK with killing the other smaller critters (water bugs, insects, nymphs, etc) it is very cheap to apply the common nerve toxin bifenthrin used to kill mosquitos. In the US it is easy to buy on Amazon without a license. At pretty low concentrations it is a selective poison for goldfish (basically carp) You would have to be prepared to use a boat to net out hundreds of dead and floating carp/goldfish and of course you may not be certain you killed them all. You could do a few applications and slowly increase the dose till you are satisfied. Your experience may vary although there are studies in the past using bifenthrin as a selective goldfish poison with fairly good results.

Rotenone is more selective for fish of all types (but not selective for goldfish) but will save the smaller critters in the food chain.


Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
Alabama Woody, R&R, TheWayISeeIt
Recent Posts
New pond stocking
by FishinRod - 09/22/23 10:20 AM
What is the maximum allowable drive time?
by Knobber - 09/22/23 07:45 AM
Need advice
by Sunil - 09/22/23 07:09 AM
Aeration How many hrs per day to keep on?
by canyoncreek - 09/21/23 09:14 PM
What do CC do ?
by Sunil - 09/21/23 07:40 AM
Feeder for Optimal 5.5MM floating
by FishinRod - 09/20/23 06:28 PM
Lost one of our best friends today...
by Zep - 09/20/23 02:00 PM
Little update and a question on harvesting
by esshup - 09/19/23 07:26 PM
Shoreline plants now submerged. Will they die?
by esshup - 09/19/23 02:34 PM
Hog Wild
by FireIsHot - 09/19/23 12:13 PM
Aeration or no?
by esshup - 09/18/23 07:49 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Sharing the Food
Sharing the Food
by FishinRod, September 9
Nice BGxRES
Nice BGxRES
by Theo Gallus, July 28
Snake Identification
Snake Identification
by Rangersedge, July 12
Caught fishing without permission
Caught fishing without permission
by Theo Gallus, June 22
1 acre Northern Catskills NY
the "grass" in our pond
the "grass" in our pond
by Mama Rachael, May 28

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5