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FireIsHot #381995 07/11/14 07:34 PM
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"Cedar apple rust (CAR) is an important fungal disease of apple in North America east of the Rocky Mountains. It can defoliate trees and blemish fruit making them unmarketable. The CAR fungus requires two hosts, apple and eastern red cedar (Juniperus virginiana L.), to complete its life cycle."

Google it for more details but I think you might be OK with plumb and peach, I don't have any of those. Its really bad on my apple verities. Come to think it may be well apples. I'm going to check now haha

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Thanks Jay. I'm trying to stay on top of problems since there were so many fruit trees, specifically peach trees, lost to the drought during the last few years.


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No problem at all. I am fairly new to fruit trees. Just got into them a couple years ago now I find myself buying more every year, this year I got into grapes on a trellis as well. Didn't realize there were so many funguses and insects that specifically spend there life trying to wreck everything I love!

Good luck with your trees, lost my plum trees due to the hard winter, going to buy more next year.

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There is a spray for cedar apple rust, forgetting the chemical name right now but I spray for it every year. Really took care of the rust problems I was having. I had a new problem this year, we had a 17 year Cicada outbreak and they made a mess of the trees. Looking at the two orchards last night I think most of the trees will survive but going to take a couple of years to recover and all the branches that where/are going to be lost.


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I have wanted to try raised beds, last year I tried grow boxes and they did good at first then the heat and grasshoppers just destroyed me. I planted some fruit trees this year and decided I couldn't handle a garden too. now I regret it. Long story but A few years ago I had a sweet potato patch and the deer were eating me alive. I ended up driving a t post every 15 feet or so and hanging an old t shirt on a hanger on them and it kept the deer away.

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I have purchased the rust spray, but I was told it may be to late now in the year. I sprayed anyway but results are negligable. Fingers crossed.

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Yes spraying for rust has to be done early in the spring for my it is late March or early April most years.


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Guess I'll know for next year I just hope my trees make it. There only two years old so there tender

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Dale k we're just about done here with all the heat and the grasshopper damage also. It's been almost impossible to keep our garden hydrated over the last several weeks.

One thing I have learned is to pack clay or native soil in the bottom 3-4" of any boxed beds. Much like putting a piece of broken tile in a flower pot, the denser bottom helps retain the water.

The only real problem we had this year were potato beetles. We spayed the plants with the correct insecticide, but won't do that again. They're very easy to hand pick, and catmandoo told me he saved them as snacks for his fish. We'll certainly do that next year.


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Spring's here, and the garden's doing well. I thought I'd post my 9 year old garden that has evolved into a pretty productive clump of dirt. We've added tons of organic material into the beds, and the compost pile is ready for a turnover. As of today, we have red and yukon gold potatoes, squash, zucchini, red and 1015 onions, and garlic up and going. Tomatoes, okra, and green beans like the warmer weather, and they will be added next week.

I won't say we've gone 100% organic, but I can't remember the last time we sprayed pesticides on the plants other than homemade pepper solutions. The soil has evolved into a very rich mix, and the only fertilizer we use is on tomatoes. I'm on my 3rd broadfork, and I rarely drag the Mantis tiller out anymore.

Picking weeds is always a PITA, so we quit doing it. We load the beds with straw, which helps keep moisture, and block out weeds. We burn the beds each spring, and then till or fork in all the burnt straw.

The fence is up to keep the sticken' does out of our garden.







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Al, that looks great! I'm doing the same thing except making the beds 2 boards tall. (2x12's)


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Nice garden! The pond is gorgeous, too. Just in case the you know what hits the fan, you should be pretty well set for food.


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Originally Posted by FireIsHot
Picking weeds is always a PITA, so we quit doing it.

Just train the goats to eat the weeds and leave the rest - problem solved! grin

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Our goats are a tad spoiled, and unlike most goats, they're extremely picky. Merle, my goat, won't eat anything out of my hand unless he smells my hand first. I save their "raisins", and put them in the compost pile. We cut back summer hay usage by cutting elm and hackberry limbs for them. They eat the leafs, and strip the bark off the limbs themselves.

My wife's goat, the one in my avatar, is one more screwup away from being barbacoa. I like to think of her as Satan's little helper.


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Originally Posted by FireIsHot
Our goats are a tad spoiled, and unlike most goats, they're extremely picky. Merle, my goat, won't eat anything out of my hand unless he smells my hand first. I save their "raisins", and put them in the compost pile. We cut back summer hay usage by cutting elm and hackberry limbs for them. They eat the leafs, and strip the bark off the limbs themselves.

My wife's goat, the one in my avatar, is one more screwup away from being barbacoa. I like to think of her as Satan's little helper.

Is your wife in on that plan as well?


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Originally Posted by FireIsHot
Our goats are a tad spoiled, and unlike most goats, they're extremely picky. Merle, my goat, won't eat anything out of my hand unless he smells my hand first. I save their "raisins", and put them in the compost pile. We cut back summer hay usage by cutting elm and hackberry limbs for them. They eat the leafs, and strip the bark off the limbs themselves.

My wife's goat, the one in my avatar, is one more screwup away from being barbacoa. I like to think of her as Satan's little helper.

Is your wife in on that plan as well?

Negative. She loves my wife, and hates me. I handle the monthly hoof trimming, and I get dagger eyes the first of every month.


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Originally Posted by FireIsHot
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Our goats are a tad spoiled, and unlike most goats, they're extremely picky. Merle, my goat, won't eat anything out of my hand unless he smells my hand first. I save their "raisins", and put them in the compost pile. We cut back summer hay usage by cutting elm and hackberry limbs for them. They eat the leafs, and strip the bark off the limbs themselves.

My wife's goat, the one in my avatar, is one more screwup away from being barbacoa. I like to think of her as Satan's little helper.

Is your wife in on that plan as well?

Negative. She loves my wife, and hates me. I handle the monthly hoof trimming, and I get dagger eyes the first of every month.


"Here Honey, you trim the hooves this month." LOL


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I didn't spy a close by water source (other than the pond), is the straw adequate enough to to maintain moisture in the beds, or what are you using as a water source? I'm starting to catch grief for foregoing some convenient garden space for a larger pond, though I'm considering clearing a spot next to my barn and collecting rainwater from the 2 downspouts on that side.


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Originally Posted by DrewSh
I didn't spy a close by water source (other than the pond), is the straw adequate enough to to maintain moisture in the beds, or what are you using as a water source? I'm starting to catch grief for foregoing some convenient garden space for a larger pond, though I'm considering clearing a spot next to my barn and collecting rainwater from the 2 downspouts on that side.

They have a watering tank in the goat pen.


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Originally Posted by FireIsHot
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Our goats are a tad spoiled, and unlike most goats, they're extremely picky. Merle, my goat, won't eat anything out of my hand unless he smells my hand first. I save their "raisins", and put them in the compost pile. We cut back summer hay usage by cutting elm and hackberry limbs for them. They eat the leafs, and strip the bark off the limbs themselves.

My wife's goat, the one in my avatar, is one more screwup away from being barbacoa. I like to think of her as Satan's little helper.

Is your wife in on that plan as well?

Negative. She loves my wife, and hates me. I handle the monthly hoof trimming, and I get dagger eyes the first of every month.

You are the only hoof trimming, big bass hating pondmeister I know. That makes you the Greatest Of All Time!


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