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I just did a Draftlogic area calculation and came up with 6.87 acres of plants in a 18.55 acre pond. This is approximately 37% weeds (if I did my math correctly).

What's healthy? Is this too much or too little, or just right? Ultimately I would like to grow some big LMB.

I'm sure someone will ask so here's what's in it; black and white crappie, bass, golden shiners, bluegill, green sunfish, channel cats, bullheads, and probably some other random stuff.

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What plants make up the 37%? 37% of Potamogeton is a lot different than 37% European Milfoil.


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Originally Posted by Theo Gallus
What plants make up the 37%? 37% of Potamogeton is a lot different than 37% European Milfoil.

That's a great question and one that I'm somewhat ashamed to not know the answer to. Everyone here calls it "coontail" but I have not done a complete id on it. Suppose I should do that this weekend...

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Originally Posted by Theo Gallus
What plants make up the 37%? 37% of Potamogeton is a lot different than 37% European Milfoil.

That's a great question and one that I'm somewhat ashamed to not know the answer to. Everyone here calls it "coontail" but I have not done a complete id on it. Suppose I should do that this weekend...

I had coontail completely take over my pond, growing from depths of at least 12' and spreading on the surface. For years it kept itself at bay, although it would spread as the summer came on, we could at least use some of the pond. Each year though, it got worse and worse. It was so bad that by June each season, our pond was unusable. You couldn't cast in it, couldn't swim in it and even putting a kayak in wasn't any fun. It was so bad that I was worried if a someone fell off our dock and got panicked, they could drown should that stuff wrap them up.

I tried raking it and maybe got a 30' x 30' spot around the dock yanked out and carted away while it took me a good portion of a day. It was far too much for us to treat with pesticides and we eventually decided to drain, dredge and start our pond anew, a decision I am so happy with now. This time we'll hammer on it if and when as soon as we see any of it again.

Maybe other people haven't had the negative experiences I've had with that vegetation but for me, that stuff is evil.

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Originally Posted by catscratch
Originally Posted by Theo Gallus
What plants make up the 37%? 37% of Potamogeton is a lot different than 37% European Milfoil.

That's a great question and one that I'm somewhat ashamed to not know the answer to. Everyone here calls it "coontail" but I have not done a complete id on it. Suppose I should do that this weekend...


Here's a good place to start to ID what you have: https://aquaplant.tamu.edu/plant-identification/


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Originally Posted by Theo Gallus
What plants make up the 37%? 37% of Potamogeton is a lot different than 37% European Milfoil.


A suggestion or two (and a lot of research) has me thinking it is actually coontail.
So... should I be looking at trying to get some of this under control? Can I grow big bass at 37% coontail or should I be adding a triploid or ten in there? It seems there has to be perfect balance, just don't know what that might be?

Even though it seems to have been stable at this percentage for many years I would hate to have a scenario like what SherWood described pop up.

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I tried using grass carp and even had them in the pond to begin with as the coontail first started taking hold. I'd add more grass carp and it never seemed to help get things under control. A couple different times an otter would get into the pond and maybe they ate or killed the grass carp. When we finally drained and dug out the pond two years ago, I didn't see a single grass carp or fish of any size flush out or be left on the bottom. I only saw tons of small fish in the fields below us.

That stuff ruined my pond and I imagine it played a big part in a massive fish kill we had about 8 years before we drained it.


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