Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
TraceyJo4, Ben906, ely, Fishingadventure, Kowalski Home
17,723 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics39,687
Posts540,058
Members17,725
Most Online3,583
Jan 15th, 2020
Top Posters
esshup 26,633
ewest 20,961
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 14,236
Who's Online Now
10 members (tim k, anthropic, 8upbowhunter, ely, optimalfishfood, thatdoggjake, azteca, Bill Cody, Qetjustin, Bobbss), 349 guests, and 133 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 11
T
OP Online Content
T
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 11
I have an existing small pond that hasn’t been maintained in probably 40 years. I bought the property a few years ago and I’m currently improving the pond. We are building a new pond behind the existing pond. Then the plan is to cut about 1/3 of the old damn out and then rebuild a wood bridge where the old damn was that we tore out.

1) build new pond behind old pond
2) Either drain the old pond empty or cut away the old damn and let the water from the old pond drain into the new pond
3) re-dig out the old pond
4) build a wood bridge where we tore out 1/3 of the old pond to reconnect the old damn, but the two ponds will now be connected into one pond.

The old pond is overgrown and has a lot of muck in it. There are some minnows, perch, and a lot of those little Polly wogg catfish. Should I start fresh and drain the pond completely out? Or should I let the water/everything in the first pond go into the existing pond? The goal of the new pond is Largemouth Bass. I am located in East Texas in Polk County.


I’ll try to post some pictures. I am open to any other advice!!! Thanks.

Attached Images
pond1.jpg (78.73 KB, 28 downloads)
pond2.jpg (80.63 KB, 28 downloads)
pond3.jpg (72.81 KB, 26 downloads)
Last edited by thatdoggjake; 05/13/22 08:51 AM.
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 503
Likes: 57
G
Online Content
G
Joined: Dec 2018
Posts: 503
Likes: 57
Probably a matter of preference, If I had some monster bass or other species that I wanted to keep I might do that but with just general baitfish which you say you have, I would cut them lose and start from scratch. but thats just me. some of the professionals might chime in with some pros and cons.


All the really good ideas I've ever had came to me while I was milking a cow.
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,454
Likes: 237
F
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
F
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 1,454
Likes: 237
If you cut out the dam now, the water will flow to the new pond location, and then a huge amount of soupy muck will ALSO flow to the new pond. IMO, that is the last thing you want for the new pond. You will immediately lose some of the depth you just paid to create.

Will surface runoff water to the new pond mostly flow in through the old pond? If so, then I think the old pond has some value as an upstream sediment trap. That will allow your new pond to have a much longer life.

Is the edge of the new pond going to be right up against the dam of the old pond? If so, then another option is to connect the two ponds. However, I would make the connection very shallow. For example, just cut down one foot deep into the old dam for the span of your proposed bridge.

Regardless of whether you connect the ponds, you should probably consider draining the old pond (away from the new pond) and performing a fish kill. Otherwise the undesirable fish in the old pond will make it over to the new pond and disrupt your fish stocking and management plans.

The experts on the forum (not me) have indicated many times that starting from scratch is usually much cheaper and much easier in the middle to long run.

Good luck on your pond projects!

Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 12,726
Likes: 109
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 12,726
Likes: 109
Like Jake and F-Rod said, I would drain the old pond and kill off or 'relocate' any existing fish.

I would think it would be good to drain the old pond and let it dry out so you could go in and clear away the decades of muck and silt build up.


Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:"
"She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 26,633
Likes: 304
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 26,633
Likes: 304
Short answer, I wouldn't.

With unwanted fish in the old pond, unless you use a fine micron filter bag to keep them out of the new pond, I'd just let the water go and refill the new pond with clean water.

You could transfer nutrients that you cannot catch in the bag, and if you have any unwanted plants/algae in the old pond it could end up in the new pond via the water transfer.


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 11
T
OP Online Content
T
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 11
I appreciate the responses. I’ll drain the old pond first.


Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
Buzz Tatom, North40
Recent Posts
All HBG & Bass Missing: Help Please!
by tim k - 05/22/22 05:58 PM
Cypress questions
by Auprospector - 05/22/22 04:27 PM
Bladderwort Control
by TraceyJo4 - 05/22/22 03:28 PM
Hiawassee Georgia Pond!
by Troutguy1 - 05/22/22 02:30 PM
Feed with the flies.
by azteca - 05/22/22 01:12 PM
At a loss - pond won’t hold water.
by Ben906 - 05/22/22 12:06 PM
Innovative feeding technique
by jpsdad - 05/22/22 11:36 AM
A new pond journal.. lets see where we go!
by CrazyCarl - 05/22/22 11:25 AM
Game fish shortage in Michigan?
by FishinRod - 05/22/22 10:44 AM
Fish Feed Questions
by FishinRod - 05/22/22 10:39 AM
Neat gate for certain situations
by esshup - 05/22/22 08:49 AM
Guadalupe Bass
by esshup - 05/22/22 08:44 AM
Newly Uploaded Images
pond 6
pond 6
by Stressless, May 10
Molly Ann surveys her new Puppydom
Molly Ann surveys her new Puppydom
by Mongos Pond, January 28
Fry
Fry
by CityDad, January 20
Baldcypress
Baldcypress
by Stressless, January 11
Still active
Still active
by Shorty, December 15
Using FishMap
Using FishMap
by Stressless, December 9

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5