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Zep #541264 11/09/21 10:47 AM
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He showed up last yr after the season was over with a pair of matching kickers off each side
Ill see if I have any pics of that.

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I’d take him. This is the biggest guy we have running around this year. He’s been an 8 for the last three years. I guess maybe he’ll always be an 8. [Linked Image from hosting.photobucket.com]


8 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep.
RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (didn’t make it. 0 seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) I think we have survivors!
I think that's about all I should put in my little pond.
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Am I doing something wrong and failing to "hold" the deer on my farm?

I seldom see the same big bucks more than twice on my game cams. Last year I set up a platform stand on some of our high ground with long views. I watched deer moving more than a mile on some days, and they didn't look like they were done walking as they went out of view.

I have water (running creek and small ponds), dense cover (heavy shelter belt, plum thickets, and some areas of tall prairie grass), and open travel paths. I keep a number of feeders going from October through the season.

Yet it still seems like my deer are just "passing through". Any advice from the experts?

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Rod, do you see deer or deer tracks around your feeders?


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Yes, on the deer around the feeders.

However, the raccoons also eat a fair portion of the corn.

Unfortunately, the farm is 45 minutes from my house so I usually have the timed feeders on pretty light settings.

I actually have lots of deer. I am just amazed at all of the people on Pond Boss that are "old friends" with their deer and see them for several seasons.

Our farm has pretty light human occupation during the deer season. I do catch pictures of two of my neighbor's dogs running around on the farm frequently. Perhaps that is my biggest problem?

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We have some deer that we see season after season and others that pass through. We feed year round . Corn in sling feeders and free choice 20% protein, and 5 acres of winter wheat to try to hold them close. Some are quite tolerant of us when we put out feed. Which is every 4-5 days with 7 feeders

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IMO, dogs are a definite problem for holding deer. We have 5 German shepherds but they are restricted to about 40 acres so that they do not run off the deer in my prime habitat.

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Pat,

Thanks for the advice. Yes, our deer are also surprising tolerant of humans on occasion.

I didn't know what "free choice 20% protein" was, so I looked it up. It appears to be a medicated cattle feed. Are you deliberately giving the medicated feed to your deer for the parasite control?

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RAH,

I have several barbed wire gates that are so old that they definitely would be a risk to hold cattle. (There are no cattle on the farm at the present.) I think that is where the dogs are going in. I probably need to check for footprints after the next soaking rain.

I doubt I can make them "dog proof", but maybe one extra strand in the bottom 18" would help. However, the dogs could still easily go through the rest of my fences.



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Originally Posted by FishinRod
Pat,

Thanks for the advice. Yes, our deer are also surprising tolerant of humans on occasion.

I didn't know what "free choice 20% protein" was, so I looked it up. It appears to be a medicated cattle feed. Are you deliberately giving the medicated feed to your deer for the parasite control?

The term free choice down here means they eat all they want when they want . We use purina Antlers Max 20 or Antler Plus 16 or 20 by cargill. Not any medicated feed, those feeds are for deer

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Fishinrod, roaming hounds are a huge problem for deer to hang around for any period of time, you will definitely not have any deer long term with roaming dogs, they will keep your deer moving all the time, especially the old bucks, they tend to bed down in the daytime and dont want to be disturbed, seldom show themselves other then after dark, run them, and any deer, out of their beds a couple times and they will move on to find another place. I would guess the dogs are the major portion of the problem, I had some dogs come through on my cameras about every 2 or 3 days till I left a little note in the owners mailbox, along with a picture of his dogs burning thru the woods, I let him know if he cares about the well being of his dogs that he needs to keep them on his property, they arent safe on other peoples property. never seen them since.
I feed straight corn a little in the winter but cater more to the turkeys, I have the feeders go off about 9 am, that way the turkeys have all day to eat what they want before the deer show up, doesnt work real well because the deer learn the time and hear the feeder. I have resorted to putting out cracked corn on the driveway gravel, that way the deer arent able to clean it up in a few minutes.


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Another way to perhaps keep the hounds out is to allow a trapper access to your place and let the neighbor know it.

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Originally Posted by RAH
Another way to perhaps keep the hounds out is to allow a trapper access to your place and let the neighbor know it.

This is excellent advice IMO.


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Opening day of gun today. Targeted this one because he was old and in decline. Taken before 8 AM.

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Nice deer, RAH!

And also a good cull.

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Originally Posted by RAH
Another way to perhaps keep the hounds out is to allow a trapper access to your place and let the neighbor know it.

That is a good idea!

I was going to have a trapper out 2 years ago to get a family of beavers that were cutting all of my trees along the creek. We then had two massive floods and I have not had any beavers since then.

I also have bobcats on my farm, but I think they may actually be improving my upland bird populations. My neighbor used to have at least 20 barn cats, which I would sometimes see on my farm. After the bobcats moved in, I no longer see the barn cats on my land, or even around my neighbor's buildings.

My bird populations are going UP! I think one family of bobcats does much less damage than a large number of semi-feral housecats.

At this time, I don't think I should have any trappers on the property. I do not like to tell little lies in life, because that makes it easier to tell bigger lies.

However, some warning signs at my gates about ongoing trapping operations might be very helpful!

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I have a beaver right now cutting down trees, but the trapper has been stymied so far. Its a bit cold for sitting out there at night waiting so I have not done it.

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Rah a thermal scope helps at nite, scan and go home if nothing there. My son-in-Law has one for hog hunting. Also good for tracking at nite. They show up really good

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I set a trail cam over a beaver area and never got an image. I think that the cold water in fur does not give a good signal.

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My son in law got the one pictured above. My neighbor across the gravel road got this monster. I elected not to shoot. Haha! [Linked Image from hosting.photobucket.com]


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8 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep.
RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (didn’t make it. 0 seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) I think we have survivors!
I think that's about all I should put in my little pond.
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Beautiful critter!


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Originally Posted by FishinRod
Originally Posted by RAH
Another way to perhaps keep the hounds out is to allow a trapper access to your place and let the neighbor know it.

That is a good idea!

I was going to have a trapper out 2 years ago to get a family of beavers that were cutting all of my trees along the creek. We then had two massive floods and I have not had any beavers since then.

I also have bobcats on my farm, but I think they may actually be improving my upland bird populations. My neighbor used to have at least 20 barn cats, which I would sometimes see on my farm. After the bobcats moved in, I no longer see the barn cats on my land, or even around my neighbor's buildings.

My bird populations are going UP! I think one family of bobcats does much less damage than a large number of semi-feral housecats.

At this time, I don't think I should have any trappers on the property. I do not like to tell little lies in life, because that makes it easier to tell bigger lies.

However, some warning signs at my gates about ongoing trapping operations might be very helpful!

Rod, you really don't know for sure if any trappers may have snuck in to your place. So the warning isn't really a lie, it's more an abundance of caution & consideration for the well being of would be trespassers. Remember, it's not a lie if you believe it! wink

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This one made it past Mrs. Augie Saturday morning, but his luck ran out when he showed up in my corner of the woods.

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Originally Posted by Augie
This one made it past Mrs. Augie Saturday morning, but his luck ran out when he showed up in my corner of the woods.

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Hard to believe he made it past Mrs. Augie when he was carrying that rifle across his back! laugh


Nice shooting, Augie. That looks like a good one to re-stock your meat supply in the deep freeze!

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Yep not a bad one. ~225lb on the hoof. The stilyard leveled at 205, but his head and front feet were still on the floor.

First time in half a dozen years that I got one before Mrs. Augie got one.

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