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#540675 10/16/21 12:55 PM
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Just thought that I would share pics of my 4th pond filling along with the attached wetland, Have not even stocked predators in my 3rd pond yet. If I cannot locate pumpkinseed and blue cats by spring, I'll probably stock black crappie and CC in the 3rd pond. Will add FHM to the 4th pond in spring as well. May try a yellow lotus in the wetland area. The lavender lotus in my 3rd pond continues to struggle likely due to the clay bottom. May try grass pickerel in the 4th pond since chain pickerel is another species that is difficult to locate in Indiana. I only want species that will spawn in the ponds. I planted buttonbush seeds on the shoreline but will need to transplant emergent plants in spring if the pond fills completely.

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Looks great RAH!

I also like your "multiple pond" strategy. Move plants, forage species, and predators from overpopulated areas to underpopulated areas as needed.

I hope you get it filled this winter. That way you can start working on the ecology of a fully operational Deathstar <pond> this spring!

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Hope you have better luck with button bush than I did! Planted small bushes five years ago, none have survived.

Like FishingRod, I like your multi pond, multi species strategy. Diversification makes sense, and not just in the stock market!


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We have button bush established on our place so I am hopeful it will spread. Thank you for your well wishes!

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RAH, do you have any pictures of the lavender lotus?

Instead of black crappie, what about hybrid crappie if you cannot find Blue Cats? I can ask my CC suppliers if they have any sources that could be called.


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Do hybrid crappie spawn? If so, wouldn't the offspring be a hodge-podge?

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Thanks! Those are beautiful. Yes they do, but at a much lesser rate than either black or white crappie. I was thinking they may be better in there because you don't have forage fish for the crappie to eat. BUT if you are going to try to see if the crappie would be forage fish for the BC, then you might need the excess reproduction.


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I have lake chubsuckers in the pond along with FHM. What are good forage fish for black crappie?

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I have BCP in with LMB,BC,CC and BG. They have not done well in my 6 acre puddle, they definitely have not over populated. I also have golden shiners and had Shad til this last ice age in Texas. So it’s a crap shoot as to how they will do in your pond.

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One advantage that I have in my small pond is a neighbor who likes to fish for eating. He pulled 60 BG out of my 1.3 acre pond again this year. I still see nice BG when I throw in a handful of feed. Hoping that there are more big LMB after having a friend remove a 6.4 lb. fish last year and a 4.5 lb. one this year. He and his family ate both fish. Started cutting dead spruce trees to add to the 3rd pond and to the pond with YP in it. I have not seen ribbons for the last 2 years so I want to add more brush piles;

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For crappie, both FHM and Golden Shiners are good forage fish, the shiners might get too large for the crappie to eat, but a few single sex LMB would take care of that problem.


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I assume large CC might eat very large golden shiners as well?

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Originally Posted by RAH
I assume large CC might eat very large golden shiners as well?

Correct.


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