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I.D. Help
I just want to make sure I know what I have, each of these were caught from my pond this morning. #1-RES? #2-male CNBG #3-HBG #4-HBG #5-female CNBG AM I close? Thanks!
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#1 has a lot of GSF traits but ironically, looks like Tilapia lips :-)) #2 is a male CNBG in fairly poor body condition. #3 also has a lot of GSF traits but I don't believe it's "only" GSF. #4 same as #3 but large tab would indicate a male. #5 is a Female CNBG in much better shape than #2 specimen.
I think 1, 3 & 4 are all the same hybrid, GSF X "what"?? I personally don't see RES traits in any but that's my view..
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I essentially agree with Snipe, but am not sure the BG are CNBG, and would require DNA testing to determine the exact GSF-ishness of 1, 3, and 4.
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My vote is identifications according to those of Snipe although amount of coppernoseBG is questionable. Some GSF involved in those hybrid bluegills of 1, 3, 4 .
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Number 1 is really fascinating. I can definitely see the GSF but the elongated "snout" has me stumped and the colors are very unique.
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Steve, mouth reminds me of Tilapia-seriously. Above guys, I'm willing to give my left nut on saying #2 is a male (not very healthy) CNBG, I'm 100% sure (maybe 99%), #4 is a female but whether it's CN or Northern (or a mix) I'm not sure. The others are certainly "Part" GSF...what the other element is, I don't know but I don't see anything that leads me to consider RES mix.
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Those hybrids, esp No 1, could be or maybe are related to the infamous Georgia Giant lineage as FX individuals? Quite a few of those GG were stocked back in "the day".
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Steve, mouth reminds me of Tilapia-seriously. Above guys, I'm willing to give my left nut on saying #2 is a male (not very healthy) CNBG, I'm 100% sure (maybe 99%), #4 is a female but whether it's CN or Northern (or a mix) I'm not sure. The others are certainly "Part" GSF...what the other element is, I don't know but I don't see anything that leads me to consider RES mix. You are very right. I know TP can't breed with a GSF, but if they could, I imagine that's what it would look like.
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I will not risk any of the family jewels but I agree with Snipe's evaluation with one exception. I don't know enough about differentiating between CNBG and Northern BG to make a call myself. But I definitely think I see a BG (northern or CNBG) for the second pic.
I fish a pond with my kids that have BG and GSF and CC. The color pattern on the hybrids looks just like the first example. The blues diminish and they are not so bright as they get larger. In nature, I think the cross most commonly occurs between BG males and GSF females. I do not know if the pond where I see these hybrids have RES. All I can say is that I have never observed RES in among the hundreds of lepomis we have caught thus far. Given that they are overpopulated ... I wouldn't expect to, however. Its hard to get bait down to a depth that I tend to catch RES (not so commonly even where I find them). I only mention this because I have read that GSF will more readily breed with RES than BG. If some are in there, I may be observing RESxGSF hybrids.
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HBG except for # 2 and 5 which are male - 1 possible CNBG and 5 a young CNBG male.
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