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Just a little watermeal?
#533830 04/12/21 08:34 PM
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New pond owner on my first Spring with the pond. About 0.6 acres with depth of 3-11' throughout. Just noticed some watermeal around the edges.

First, is there such a thing as "just a little watermeal" or is this just the beginning of the full-on invasion that warmer weather brings.

In short, do I start treatment soon because I have a problem?

Re: Just a little watermeal?
1997pond #533842 04/12/21 11:55 PM
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I would spray any you see now with Flumioxazin. You are seeing most likely the beginnings of an invasion.


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1997pond #533844 04/13/21 08:04 AM
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Does Flumioxazin require a license or can I apply myself?

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Fix this as early as possible before it is to late or very expensive to address.
















Re: Just a little watermeal?
1997pond #533852 04/13/21 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 1997pond
Does Flumioxazin require a license or can I apply myself?


You can purchase and apply it yourself.


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1997pond #536038 06/03/21 06:38 PM
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Surface or subsurface flumioazin for watermeal? I've done two surface treatments and I'm wondering if subsurface would be better.

Background:
I did a surface treatment with flumioazin in late April with a low dose and treated just the areas where the watermeal was concentrated by the wind. It knocked the watermeal back but within a month it was back to ~50-75%% where it was before the first treatment.

After the recommended 28 day waiting period between treatments, I did a second suface treatment at the full recommended dose and followed-up a couple days later with some spot treatments. Will be evaluating results but subsurface seems easier to apply and may be more effective on 100% of the pond.

In both cases I treated before the quantity of watermeal was big enough to trigger a fish kill

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1997pond #536051 06/04/21 04:18 AM
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I agree get a handle on it now. I had a 1 acre pond covered with it and got rid of it. I used a product named Clipper and added a surficant . (spelling) It's a granular that is mixed with water to dissolve in a hand pump sprayer along with the surficant. The surficant helps it to stay on the top of the water where the watermeal is. Good luck

Mike

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Mfitzs70 #536102 06/04/21 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mfitzs70
I agree get a handle on it now. I had a 1 acre pond covered with it and got rid of it. I used a product named Clipper and added a surficant . (spelling) It's a granular that is mixed with water to dissolve in a hand pump sprayer along with the surficant. The surficant helps it to stay on the top of the water where the watermeal is. Good luck Mike

Mike, the surfactant allows the chemical to break through the waxy coating on the plant so the herbicide can get "sucked up" by the plant.


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1997pond #536412 06/11/21 12:06 PM
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My orignal question was about surface versus subsurface application of Flumioxazin (brand name: Propeller). I've applied twice (w/surfactant) but I'm asking if a subsurface application would be better. Thoughts?

Surface spraying seems prone to missing spots or patches of watermeal moving across the pond surface while spraying.

Re: Just a little watermeal?
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In the 2/3 ac pond, as long as you have the correct dosage, it wouldn't matter. The biggest thing is you have to watch the water pH that you are using to mix it with in the tank.

Surface Application - Mix .75-1.5 Ounce of Propeller with 1 gallon of water for every 1/8 acre (5,456 feet). So you would need to use 7.92 ounces at max dose.

Subsurface Application - Mix 2.2-4.4 Ounces of Propeller with 1 gallon of water for every 1/8 acre (5,456 feet) per 1' average depth. i.e. 1/8 acre with 3' average depth would require 12 Ounces (4 Ounces x 3) You would need to use 209 ounces at max dose.


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Thanks for the details. Still seems odd that you can get identical results but one uses 20x+ as much herbicide.

Pond PH is hovering around 7.0 so I should be good on that front.

I'm using a 2 gallon pump sprayer with fan spray nozzle. Is that the right tool for the job or should I look at other options?

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That should work. You using the pond water to put in the sprayer?


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Yes, I'm using pond water in the sprayer.


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