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#535007 05/10/21 03:50 PM
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Hey guys
Somewhat new to the forum.
Lurked some but that’s about it.

Pond question..
I have about a six acre pond.
The project went much longer and was much larger than initially anticipated.
Basically my pond guy screwed up. I told him what I wanted, he eyeballed it and bid the job about half what is was worth.
Good news for me I guess, except I am afraid it probably put my job down on his priority list.

The dam is a beast.
Pond is probably 40 feet in some spots.
Was taking forever to fill.
So, being the impatient soul that I am, we decided to pump from the river.
Was working beautifully.
Got about 6-8 feet from the top of the riser and the water started pouring out the backside.
Multiple breaches.
The entire part of the dam that they filled last was pouring out water.
Contractor was not present for this portion.
Left it with “his guys”.

Anyway. He comes out, cores the dam way down past the leak to clay, 15 feet wide, packs it in and wa-lah. No more leaks.

So I’m out there today and notice areas at the bottom of the dam that are quite moist even a couple trickles of water. I should specify these areas are in a different part of the dam. 50 yards or so away from the original area of concern.
I don’t know if this is still water runoff from recent rains, or possibly more seeping.
My question is this...
Is there such a thing as an “acceptable” amount of seepage.
Even when water was pouring out the backside there was no noticeable drop in water level.
Is a small amount of seeping ok?
Is it possible the dam will seal over time, or is it more likely the leaking, if it is that, will get worse?
The water coming out is clear if that matters.

The bottom is clay. The dam is mostly clay as well but does have some shale mixed in....

Happy to answer any specific questions about my scenario.
I’ll hang up and listen.
Thanks

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BasssinOk #535011 05/10/21 04:53 PM
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I’m not a leaky dam expert but I have the same problem Mine is where the dam “pieces” meet. Essentially, 2 types of soil meet.

My dozer guy wouldn’t come back.


It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

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Originally Posted by Dave Davidson1
I’m not a leaky dam expert but I have the same problem Mine is where the dam “pieces” meet. Essentially, 2 types of soil meet.

My dozer guy wouldn’t come back.


How many decades ago was this??


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BasssinOk #535079 05/11/21 10:26 PM
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BassinOK, you say no noticeable drop in water level. If you lose 1" vertical in water depth in 2 days, that's almost 163,000 gallons of water..... That's about 1/4 the total water volume in an Olympic sized swimming pool.

Wait a week or so after the rain stops and if there is still a trickle of water, call them back out.


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Scott, that was about 25 or so years ago. Some time back, I had a dozer driver come out to see about fixing the seam where the2 sides meet and leak. He was unwilling to take his equipment over the rocks to get to it. You’ve seen it and know about my rock “collection”.


It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Originally Posted by Dave Davidson1
Scott, that was about 25 or so years ago. Some time back, I had a dozer driver come out to see about fixing the seam where the2 sides meet and leak. He was unwilling to take his equipment over the rocks to get to it. You’ve seen it and know about my rock “collection”.

Dave you just need to get Mike Otto out there! LOL


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Happy to help, work with guys every week on leak issues nationwide. Time is free to the Pond Boss family - can share some of my experiences. Feel free to reach out anytime - tj@hudlandmgmt.com


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Scott,sooner or later the drought will kick in and the water level will be at the point where I can get in touch with Mike.


It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Hi Dave, Live in Highlands County, Florida. Very sandy soil, need some advice on how to drastically stop the seepage in my pond.
My pond is less than 1/4 of an acre, I pump water from my well for 6 hrs every day on 2" pipe, I loose all the water that I pump daily plus additional seepage. Your help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Miguel

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Miguel120, look at the post by teehjaeh57 that is 2 posts back from your post. Give him a shout. He can help.


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Hi , Live in Highlands County, Florida. Very sandy soil, need some advice on how to drastically stop the seepage in my pond.
My pond is less than 1/4 of an acre, I pump water from my well for 6 hrs every day on 2" pipe, I loose all the water that I pump daily plus additional seepage. Your help will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks, Miguel

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Hi Miguel:

Feel free to reach out anytime happy to help however I can.

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