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New property, old pond. What to do?
#527920 11/23/20 10:52 AM
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I just purchased some property and it has a small pond on it. Looking at past dates on google earth, it was dug sometime around 1975. The pond flooded 3 years ago during Hurricane Harvey. It is now covered in some kind of thick vegetation. Initial thoughts are to drain the pond and access what I have, then possibly get some equipment in there and clean out the sludge and start over.

Any idea what this vegetation is? Any recommendations or suggestions on how to go about this? We are south of Houston. The pond is about 150' from one end to the other. My kids are 10 and 13 yrs old so I'd like to get some perch and maybe some bass in there for them to have fun with. We are about to start building a home on the property, so really don't want to sink a large amount of money into the pond. I'd love to hear any thoughts or suggestions y'all may have.

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Re: New property, old pond. What to do?
45ACP #527923 11/23/20 11:12 AM
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Just a guess, but it looks like Salvinia. I hope somebody corrects my guess, because that's nasty stuff.

Salvinia


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Re: New property, old pond. What to do?
45ACP #527927 11/23/20 01:24 PM
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When earthmoving equipment is on the property to do grading and foundations for the house, that is the best time to do a pond renovation project!

I would suggest you keep doing research on Pond Boss forum to determine your best course of action on your pond. There is literally an expert for almost any question that you can ask.

(My problem was that you need to have some knowledge about ponds to be able to ask the experts the "right" questions.)

Good luck on your house and pond project!

P.S. If your pond dimensions are actually a 150' x 150' square, then your pond is 0.52 acres.

Best wishes, Rod

Re: New property, old pond. What to do?
FishinRod #528720 12/10/20 11:25 AM
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I've confirmed it is Giant Salvinia.

FishinRod, I am here to hopefully get advice on what course of action to take. I'd like to first drain the pond so I can assess what I have. Can a trash pump do this or would the salvinia be too much and clog it?

After draining, depending on depth and muck, possibly dig it a little deeper. In the end, I just want a body of water that is nice to look at and that my kids can catch some perch and maybe a few bass.

I appreciate any advice yall can offer. What would YOU do if it was your pond? Id not want to make it any larger. Deeper maybe, but not take up any more space.

Re: New property, old pond. What to do?
45ACP #528820 12/13/20 02:34 PM
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Hey 45,

I am in the same general boat as you, and not to brag, but think I am in a little better starting position, haha! I just bought some property in the Plantersville area. The pond on it is about 1/8 acre, and was made sometime between 1958 and 1965. I have some vegetation around the edges, but have seen some bluegill and some decent largemouth (which have no problems eating grasshoppers that get thrown in the pond!). I am trying to figure out if I should just leave it, or if I should try digging it out and addressing the vegetation issues.

One thing I have thought about doing, is digging a larger (roughly 2 acre) pond on the back of the property, and then once it is stocked, converting this smaller one to a catfish only pond. I would pellet feed them to keep the size up, and it would be a great small pond where the kids are almost guaranteed to catch something.

If you want to get a fairly accurate size, I recommend using google maps. You can zoom in as far as possible, right click a point on the edge of the pond, choose measure distance, then click points all around the edge, until you get back to the start point. It will give you the area, and you can either use google to convert it (just search for sq ft to acres), or just divide the area by 43,560. I added a picture for you. My pond measure .1446 acres, which is just over 1/8th.

I am going to keep an eye on this thread to see if anyone has any input. Best of luck with yours!

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Re: New property, old pond. What to do?
45ACP #529099 12/23/20 12:03 PM
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So, any ideas how to drain it? Trash pump? Siphon made form PVC? Just not sure if that Salvinia will clog the drain.

Am I even asking the correct questions? Just thought I'd get more than a couple replies....

Just looking for some guidance from you experts on this pond. Admittedly, I don't really know what I'm doing.

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I prolly wont be much help for ya but I will take a stab at it. If I was going bring in equipment to dig it out I wouldn't worry bout the vegetation because it will be removed also. If theres no fish in there tht you care then drain it. When I drained mine (only halfway). I took a bucket and put the pump inside it. Made the bucket like a big washing machine tub. It had lots of small holes in it. Mine I was more concerned with mud clogging it up. If you get some kind of trachoe to clean it be careful. It could disrupt a clay line which hopefully it has. Hopefully I didnt create more questions than answers which I tend to do.


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Re: New property, old pond. What to do?
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This pond is a big plus for your property. I see only the advantages to have a pond on your land. Honestly, to be, this pond must increase the value of your property. So it's just a big advantage in this case. Recently, I also invested in real estate in playa del carmenreal estate in playa del carmen, it also had a small pond on it. And in case I sell the propriety I could make some extra cash. The zone is really nice, I think to build there a small vacation house and to rent it during the season for tourists. It will be a nice passive income.

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Re: New property, old pond. What to do?
45ACP #533790 04/11/21 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 45ACP
So, any ideas how to drain it? Trash pump? Siphon made form PVC? Just not sure if that Salvinia will clog the drain.

Am I even asking the correct questions? Just thought I'd get more than a couple replies....

Just looking for some guidance from you experts on this pond. Admittedly, I don't really know what I'm doing.

I know it has been a while, so don't know if you got your pump situation figured out, but random thought that popped into my head. If your pond is accessible by a large truck, and you have a small local fire department nearby, call them and ask them if they would be interested in doing some "drafting" training, and offer your pond up. Drafting is basically pulling water from a static source, to use for fire fighting. I remember we drafted from a few pools when there were no hydrants or water tanker trucks close enough. Plus, most firetrucks will pump roughly 1,000+ gallons per minute, so it wouldn't take too long. It's worth a shot.

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Excellent work with the area calculation.

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It's fantastic that you have such a wonderful lake in your territory. I am sure that this is Giant Salvinia since I cleaned my territory from such pollution, but it was on a much smaller scale. I can't say how hard it will be because I don't know what is in your lake under the Salvinia layer. The water can be very dirty. Guys from https://hrex.org/khasra-khatauni, the people I registered this territory with, gave me a couple of tips for my lake, but I don't think this will suit your situation as the problem here is much bigger. In any case, you will need to manually remove the entire top layer.

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SueSanderson #535751 05/27/21 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SueSanderson
Excellent work with the area calculation.

If you were referring to my post with the image of my pond, that is actually just Google Maps. If you zoom in to the area you want to measure, right-click on the edge of the area you want to measure and select "measure distance". Then start left clicking around the perimeter of the area to draw a line segment and trace the shape you want. Once you complete the shape, it will show you the total area and linear distance. Then you can convert that to whatever you want (total square feet divided by 43,560 will give you acres, or total square meters divided by 4,047). It works great for trying to lay out a new pond design and see how big it will be.

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Hello everyone, I am delighted to write to you in this thread.
Lovely house, of course, but I don't think I'd want to live in a place like this in my old age. I dream that in old age, I have my own garden and can grow my own vegetables. I think I'll have accomplished everything I've dreamed of since I was little. I can't wait for the times when I will buy my dream home and start living the way I want.
I wish you all the best of luck and hope that you will end up living as happily as I do. Hope to hear from you soon!

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