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Re: Bluegill Die off Sunil #531716 03/09/21 09:09 AM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 5,311 Likes: 300 Emory TX FireIsHot Moderator
FireIsHot Moderator Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 5,311 Likes: 300 Emory TX	Originally Posted by Sunil Maybe a good idea to throw some salt in the water to help with potential fungus on the fish? Yep, I'm gonna get with Snipe, and try to do the salt bath deal. I've got to get the cages back in the water, so I can hold the CNBG and see if they improve. AL

Re: Bluegill Die off anthropic #531736 03/09/21 01:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 28,505 Likes: 829 Grovertown, Indiana esshup Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker
esshup Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 28,505 Likes: 829 Grovertown, Indiana	Originally Posted by anthropic Originally Posted by esshup Bass love eating Tilapia. I've always thought so, and have stocked accordingly. But not sure there's a lot of empirical evidence to back it up. Bob Lusk has said that BG yoy survival rates go up when TP are present, which is a plus, but that doesn't mean the bass are eating TP. Wish there were some research studies on the question! Not hard scientific data, but if the LMB body condition stays the same, and there are more BG surviving, then what are the LMB eating if not the TP? www.hoosierpondpros.com http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4 3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).

Re: Bluegill Die off Dilley #531752 03/09/21 02:03 PM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,490 Likes: 265 Miss. E ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker
ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker E Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,490 Likes: 265 Miss.	Here is a list of Largemouth bass food items from FishBase (scientific). I can't believe anyone thought a LMB would not eat tilapia (or anything else it can get in its mouth). Food I Food II Food III Food name Country Predator Stage nekton finfish bony fish Acrocheilus alutaceus USA juv./adults zoobenthos insects insects Anisops sp. Kenya juv./adults zoobenthos insects insects Anisoptera nymphs Kenya juv./adults others others n.a./others Anisopteran adults Japan adults zoobenthos benth. crust. shrimps/prawns Atyaephyra desmaresti Spain adults nekton finfish bony fish Barbus paludinosus Kenya juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Barbus spp. Zimbabwe juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Carassius gibelio Japan recruits/juv. zoobenthos benth. crust. shrimps/prawns Caridina denticulata Japan juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Catostomidae USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Centrarchidae USA adults nekton finfish bony fish Centrarchidae USA recruits/juv. nekton finfish bony fish Centrarchus macropterus USA juv./adults zoobenthos insects insects Chaoborus pupa Kenya juv./adults zoobenthos insects insects Chironomid larvae Kenya juv./adults zoobenthos insects insects Chironomid pupa Kenya juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Clupeonella abrau Russia adults nekton finfish bony fish Cottidae USA juv./adults zoobenthos insects insects Culicid pupa Kenya juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Cyprinidae USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Cyprinodontidae USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Cyprinodontidae USA recruits/juv. nekton finfish bony fish Cyprinus carpio carpio USA juv./adults zooplankton plank. crust. cladocerans Diaphanosoma brachyurum Japan recruits/juv. nekton finfish bony fish Dorosoma cepedianum USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Dorosoma petenense USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Dorosoma spp. USA juv./adults zoobenthos benth. crust. amphipods Echinogrammus sp. Spain juv./adults zoobenthos insects insects Ephemeroptera Spain recruits/juv. nekton finfish bony fish Esox spp. USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Gambusia affinis USA juv./adults zooplankton fish (early stages) fish eggs/larvae Gambusia affinis USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Gambusia holbrooki Spain recruits/juv. nekton finfish bony fish Gasterosteidae USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Gymnogobius urotaenia Japan recruits/juv. nekton finfish bony fish Ictaluridae USA adults nekton finfish bony fish Ictaluridae USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Ictalurus spp. USA juv./adults zooplankton fish (early stages) fish eggs/larvae Ictalurus spp. USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Labidesthes sicculus USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Lepomis cyanellus USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Lepomis macrochirus Japan juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Lepomis spp. USA juv./adults zoobenthos insects insects Micronecta scutellaris Kenya juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Micropterus dolomieu USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Micropterus salmoides France adults zoobenthos insects insects midge larvae USA Larvae nekton finfish bony fish Mugil cephalus Japan juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Mylocheilus caurinus USA juv./adults plants other plants benthic algae/weeds Najas pectinata Kenya juv./adults others others n.a./others Nematocera adults Spain recruits/juv. zoobenthos insects insects Nematocera exuviae Spain recruits/juv. zoobenthos insects insects Nematocera larvae and pupae Spain recruits/juv. nekton finfish bony fish Notemigonus crysoleucas USA juv./adults zoobenthos worms n.a./other annelids Oligochaeta USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Oncorhynchus mykiss USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Oncorhynchus tshawytscha USA juv./adults zoobenthos benth. crust. shrimps/prawns Palaemon paucidens Japan adults nekton finfish bony fish Percidae USA adults nekton finfish bony fish Percidae USA recruits/juv. nekton finfish bony fish Percopsidae USA juv./adults nekton finfish n.a./other finfish Petromyzonidae USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Poecilia reticulata Kenya juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Pomoxis nigromaculatus USA juv./adults zoobenthos benth. crust. lobsters Procambarus clarkii Kenya juv./adults zoobenthos benth. crust. n.a./other benth. crustaceans Procambarus clarkii Kenya juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Pseudorasbora parva Japan recruits/juv. nekton finfish bony fish Ptychocheilus oregonensis USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Rhinogobius giurinus Japan juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Richardsonius balteatus USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Rutilus rutilus Spain recruits/juv. nekton finfish bony fish Rutilus rutilus Spain juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Salaria fluviatilis Spain recruits/juv. nekton finfish bony fish Salmonidae USA juv./adults plants other plants benthic algae/weeds Salvinia molesta Kenya juv./adults zooplankton plank. crust. cladocerans Sida crystallina Japan recruits/juv. nekton finfish bony fish Sunfish USA juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Tilapia zillii Kenya juv./adults zoobenthos insects insects Trichoptera larva Kenya juv./adults nekton finfish bony fish Tridentiger obscurus Japan juv./adults nekton finfish n.a./other finfish unidentified Spain juv./adults others birds shore birds unidentified France juv./adults others mammals n.a./other mammals unidentified France juv./adults zoobenthos benth. crust. benth. copepods unidentified Kenya juv./adults zoobenthos benth. crust. n.a./other benth. crustaceans unidentified USA juv./adults zoobenthos benth. crust. ostracods unidentified Kenya juv./adults zooplankton other plank. invertebrates n.a./other plank. Invertebrates unidentified (not available) recruits/juv. zoobenthos other benth. invertebrates n.a./other benth. invertebrates unidentified Arachnida Kenya juv./adults zooplankton plank. crust. cladocerans unidentified cladocera USA Larvae zooplankton plank. crust. plank. copepods unidentified copepoda USA Larvae zooplankton plank. crust. plank. copepods unidentified copepods Spain juv./adults zoobenthos benth. crust. n.a./other benth. crustaceans unidentified crayfish USA adults others others n.a./others unidentified Diptera Kenya juv./adults zoobenthos mollusks gastropods unidentified gastropod Kenya juv./adults others herps toads/frogs Xenopus adult Kenya adults others herps toads/frogs Xenopus tadpole Kenya adults others others n.a./others Zygopteran adults Japan adults zoobenthos insects insects Zygopteran nymphs Japan juv./adults

Re: Bluegill Die off ewest #531758 03/09/21 02:41 PM
Joined: May 2014 Posts: 3,864 Likes: 298 East Texas, USA A anthropic
anthropic A Joined: May 2014 Posts: 3,864 Likes: 298 East Texas, USA	Good info. My only reservations concern research reports, published in Pond Boss, that tilapia were rarely found in LMB stomachs. 7ac 2015 CNBG RES FHM 2016 TP FLMB 2017 NLMB GSH L 2018 TP & 70 HSB PK 2019 TP RBT 2020 TFS TP 25 HSB 250 F1,L,RBT -206 2021 TFS TP GSH L,-312 2022 GSH TP CR TFS RBT -234, 2023 BG TP TFS NLMB, -160

Re: Bluegill Die off Dilley #531764 03/09/21 03:46 PM
Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,351 Likes: 602 Central Kansas F FishinRod Lunker
FishinRod Lunker F Joined: Nov 2007 Posts: 3,351 Likes: 602 Central Kansas	ewest, Thanks for that lengthy list of food items. However, I did not see "green screwdriver" - as Jim Wetzel has reported. Obviously, that is only a partial list of what LMB will eat.

Re: Bluegill Die off Dilley #531817 03/10/21 11:34 AM
Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,490 Likes: 265 Miss. E ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker
ewest Moderator Hall of Fame 2014 Lunker E Joined: Mar 2005 Posts: 21,490 Likes: 265 Miss.	+ 1 or an AFLAC duck - lots of reports of plastic worms/craws/creature baits however.

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