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410hp and 429ft/lb torque from the 6.4 Hemi, with 8sp automagic transmission.
24 valve 5.9 Cummins in the Gen2 truck was 245hp and 510ft/lb torque, with 5sp manual shift.

I could tow anything with the old truck, but it was slow, and there was way too much space between 4th and 5th gear.
Ozarks hills with a heavy load were no fun at all.

Taking the camper to the trout park should be a much more pleasant experience now.

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RAH, I believe emissions are covered by a 100K mile warranty. I know it doesn't help once the mileage passes that, but if the state doesn't have emission inspections there are ways to bypass them.


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Originally Posted by RAH
If not for the reduced reliability and increased cost of maintenance that current diesel emission systems impose (especially for particulate control), I would have bought a diesel.

All of this plus I'm one of the unlucky ones that after about 10,000 miles my truck started to regen 2-3 times as often as it should have to to clean the particulate filter and GM was of no help. So mine gets way poorer mpg than it should, about 4 or 5 mpg less than my 2004 did. I would have a hard time giving up my diesel and I may stay with a diesel and if I towed like Esshup I would, but with the trouble I've had and no more than I've been towing now days, I will have to take a hard look at gas engines.


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Went out to feed the CNBG this afternoon, and there were 5-6 HSB swimming right under the dock, so I didn't lose all my HSB last summer. None of them were trophies, but I sure was glad to see the ones that were left. I'm guessing they were in the 4#-6# range. I went back to the shop to grab some Purina LMB pellets, and they ate heatedly when I got back to the dock.


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Al, that sounds good!


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Yesterday my pond still had ice covering about half of it but today it was all gone other than a few little spots on the edge. I seen a little movement at the edge on the side that gets more sun so I thought I'd throw out a little feed and see what happened. I had a lot of BG coming up to feed. I was kind of surprised since the ice just melted.
I was also glad to see a lot of FHM swimming around in my sediment pond. I just put them in last year and didn't know if they would survive the winter since it isn't very big and not very deep. I trapped a bunch of them early last fall and put them in the main pond and it looks like I have plenty left to reproduce more. Hopefully it will help keep at least a small amount going in the main pond.


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Al, that's great about you not loosing all your HSB. Going to ladder stock some more this year?


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Originally Posted by esshup
Al, that's great about you not loosing all your HSB. Going to ladder stock some more this year?

Yep, I'll probably get 20 more.


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The ice has been off my ponds for about a week now.
I was a bit concerned about the fish in the bait pond, but they seem to have come through fine.
Checked it yesterday evening and found plenty of BG that were eager to come up for pellets.
Cow pond surface temp is already up to 45°F. Lots of FHM and GAM cruising the shallows.
Another week of mild weather and the YP should be blowing ribbons.
I think it's time to wet a line.

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I turned the feeders back on today after hand feeding for the last week, and I'm happy to say that our CNBG and HSB were eating like Sunil at a Golden Corral.

After all the ice melted, and the water warmed up a bit, I started driving around the pond making daily checks for morts. So far, only one 10" LMB has floated to the top, and that was the day after the ice was completely gone.


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Bobbss,

I am planning to add a small FHM-only forage pond and I am trying to figure out the lower limits for survival.

What were the surface dimensions and depth on your sediment pond that allowed the FHM to survive this winter? (I am in southern Kansas.)


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When my sediment pond is full and over flowing it is close to 50' wide at the dam and about 70' long and close to 5' deep, it is triangle shaped. Most of the time it is probably only about 40' wide and and 60' long and 4' deep. If it has been very dry it will get even lower and smaller. The deepest part is a very small area, a lot of it is only 1'-2' deep. When it was iced over during that last cold snap it was probably about 4' deep. I should say that it was 3 1/2 years ago when it was made and I'm figuring that it silted in a little but it may of silted in even more.
I also have an older pond that is silted in real bad and only about max 2' deep most of the time, it is probably about 1/5 acre. I haven't been down to check it yet, but last summer I seen some FHM in it and it had been a year or 2 since I put some in. So at least some made it over at least 1 winter in it.

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Thanks, Bob!

40' x 60' is about 1/20th of an acre. That seems to be about the smallest viable "mini forage pond" that I have seen in multiple threads. I am impressed that they made it with only 4' of depth.

I like the concept of a few 1/10th - 1/20th acre forage or grow-out ponds where some fish can survive over the winter. That way when I mess up a big pond I can at least do a small corrective re-stocking.

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I might of just got lucky. lol! My sediment pond wasn't really planned and at first it was just a small dam pushed up because there was a chance of rain while they was building the main pond and he wanted to keep to much water from flowing in. He ended up going a head and building the dam up more but really didn't build it to hold water. The first year it didn't hold very well but got a little better each year. By last summer it was doing well enough that I put the FHM in. As I said it wasn't planned but I'm glad I have it now and wished I had put more thought into it. I've been think that someday I would like to try to dig it out a little deeper and 20' or more longer.

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CNBG don't do well in the cold.. How many folks in Texas who endured that cold spell have an idea if the CNBG in their pond actually survived it? Maybe they are cold hardy for 2 weeks but not a whole winter?

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CC, it's hard to capsulize how TX CNBG do in winter because of the size of TX. Amarillo TX is actually 200 miles closer to Denver CO than it is to Corpus Christi TX, so I would think the CNBG in the Amarillo area would handle the cold better than the ones in South TX. I've seen zero CNBG morts here, but I'm in NE TX. Also, winters here aren't like the ones you northern guys get. It's not unusual to have the heaters running one day, and have A/C running a day or 2 later. If our winters were real winters like you get, I bet they wouldn't do well at all.


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Bob,

A little bit of good luck always helps!

In my real job we always have "safety margins" - so you don't have to rely on luck.

If the bare minimum is 1/20th of an acre and 4' deep in our region, I was planning to go a little larger on the surface dimensions and 6' deep.

Hopefully, you can expand the dimensions of your sediment pond a little when you are finally forced to dig out the silt. That way you will have lots of FHM to keep your gamefish fat and happy.

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Thanks, Bob!

40' x 60' is about 1/20th of an acre. That seems to be about the smallest viable "mini forage pond" that I have seen in multiple threads. I am impressed that they made it with only 4' of depth.

I like the concept of a few 1/10th - 1/20th acre forage or grow-out ponds where some fish can survive over the winter. That way when I mess up a big pond I can at least do a small corrective re-stocking.

Great news. FH are extremely hardy fish and can endure cold , low DO , poor water conditions - just not very good at avoiding predation.
















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The main reason the sediment pond wasn't planned was budget. If I could of planned it I would of shot for 8' deep.

My pond and sediment pond are built in a narrow wooded ravine and the ground around both is pretty steep. It would probably take a fair amount of work to make it much wider and then the banks around it would be steeper. I don't think it would be to hard to just dig a deeper channel down the middle and make it a little longer. The biggest problem will be what to do with the dirt. The wet sloppy stuff will probably have to be taken up the hill and dumped on the other side. The better dirt I might be able to use to level off an area near the sediment pond or even build up the sediment pond dam a little more.


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The main reason the sediment pond wasn't planned was budget. If I could of planned it I would of shot for 8' deep.

"Budget" is also my limiting factor. That is why I want to know the bare minimum - then I can design the dimensions considering the "best bang for the buck" for the project.

We have a lot of really smart people here on Pond Boss. I am waiting for them to invent a "money tree" that will grow really well beside a pond. laugh

My wife will also take one of those in our backyard!

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I'll take as many of those trees I can get! lol!

I know another thing to consider is if you plan to use a seine to remove the fish or minnows. I'm hoping that some will just wash/swim into the main pond when I get bigger rains and use my traps. If they get very thick I may try a seine.


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Wait until the ice disappears and the temps warm up a bit. I will be looking into a forage pond that has FHM that was only 24" deep at max this winter...... It was kept partially open via aeration, but it had to get really cold.


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Bobbss not sure if the picture in my head is right so hear me out. You basically dammed up a valley right? So the taller you make your dam the wider your sides get also. Not sure how wide the dam is but could you have clay hauled in and packed along the dam to get a lot of bang for your buck. Then topsoil and seed.


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You are right, but some of the problems I would run into trying to do that would be the banks would get steeper if I raise it very much making it harder to walk around, I think it would bring the water up into some trees so I might have to remove some trees, and then there is the bigger problem of trying to get the dirt down to it. It would be at least 100' or more down a very steep hill to get the dirt down to it. No way a dump truck would make it so it would have to go down a bucket at a time. I've got a Can-Am Outlander Max 800 and wasn't sure if I should take it down it or not the first time and it is about as steep as I'm willing to try with it.


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It crazy how ever situation is so different. Like the sayin goes " it depends ".


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