Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
LeahTerry, Lon M, toledo, JasmineHart, Mike Eoff
17157 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics38,701
Posts526,070
Members17,158
Most Online3,583
Jan 15th, 2020
Top Posters
esshup 25,188
ewest 20,532
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 13,706
Who's Online Now
11 members (Tbar, Rebecca, Mainahs70, Theo Gallus, Mike Troyer, Fyfer123, toledo, G_Stan2000@yahoo, 4CornersPuddle, RAH, anthropic), 340 guests, and 365 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Threadfin shad
#530519 02/11/21 08:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 90
L
Lunker
OP Offline
Lunker
L
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 90
So if threadfin shad die when the water temperature drops below 42, how do they make a comeback and spawn every year?

Texas lakes are about to see some zero degree air temps. Will that kill all the threadfin? If so how do they spring back?

Are there eggs from last year dormant and waiting to hatch?







Re: Threadfin shad
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,202
Likes: 5
Editor, Pond Boss Magazine
Lunker
Offline
Editor, Pond Boss Magazine
Lunker
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,202
Likes: 5
Hey Al,
When the water temperature hits 42, as it will shortly, threadfins will die. No eggs, no threadfins, no chance. For Vilbig, that's probably a once-in-ten-years occurrence. They'll need to budget to buy more this spring.


Teach a man to grow fish...
He can teach to catch fish...
Re: Threadfin shad
Bob Lusk #530552 02/12/21 01:38 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 90
L
Lunker
OP Offline
Lunker
L
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 90
What about big lakes like Lake Whitney? How do they rebound?

Is there any chance that the shad could find the freshwater springs in Lake Vilbig and survive the cold?

Last edited by Lake Vilbig - Al Kohutek; 02/12/21 01:49 PM.






Re: Threadfin shad
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 483
Likes: 21
F
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
F
Joined: Nov 2007
Posts: 483
Likes: 21
The groundwater temperature around Dallas, Texas should be approximately 68F.

I have no knowledge of the spring flows into Lake Vilbig. However, if there are any significant flows, it will be difficult to get the entire lake below 42F, even with a few days of bitterly cold air.

Hopefully, some of your threadfins will survive!

Last edited by FishinRod; 02/14/21 03:15 PM. Reason: Dropped a word in sentence construction.
Re: Threadfin shad
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 20,532
Likes: 47
E
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
E
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 20,532
Likes: 47
In large lakes thermal refuges exist so the TFS can survive for short duration cold snaps.
















Re: Threadfin shad
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 90
L
Lunker
OP Offline
Lunker
L
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 90
Thanks for the info!







Re: Threadfin shad
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 3,605
Likes: 39
T
Offline
T
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 3,605
Likes: 39
A few yrs back, I could not find TFS because of the cold winter we had and my fish supplier did not have any. He did come up with some but it was the next year. I am betting it will be even harder to find them and am betting the price goes up when they are available.


Do not judge me by the politicians in my City, State or Federal Government.


Tracy
Re: Threadfin shad
TGW1 #530817 02/19/21 11:51 AM
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 2,754
Likes: 43
A
Online Content
A
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 2,754
Likes: 43
Tilapia may be scarce, too. CNBG and Fla LMB could be tough to source. Brutal cold that lasted for days hard on these species.

Last edited by anthropic; 02/19/21 11:53 AM.

8ac, full 3/16. CNBG, RES, FHM 10/15; TP 5/16; FLMB 6/16. 100 12" NLMB & 1k GSH 10/17,L, 150# TP & 70 HSB 5/18. 1k PK 11/18. 100# TP 4/19, 200# RBT 12/19, 10k TFS 3/20, 100#TP 5/20, 25 HSB & 250 F1 9/20,L,180# RBT 12/20, 206,51




Re: Threadfin shad
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 25,188
Likes: 89
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 25,188
Likes: 89
Just heard from a supplier that the fish farm next to theirs tried to seine a pond for some Golden Shiners. All dead........


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
Re: Threadfin shad
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 2,346
Likes: 5
J
Offline
J
Joined: Oct 2015
Posts: 2,346
Likes: 5
We have some threadfin shad kills in our local deep COE reservoir, Beaver Reservoir, but it seems enough always survive to repopulate. The stripers, HSB, and blue catfish get really fat when the TFS begin to die. It's been frozen over before, and the TFS always come back. There must be some thermal refuge somewhere in the 100 ft to 200 ft depths.

Re: Threadfin shad
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 18
Likes: 1
R
Offline
R
Joined: Apr 2020
Posts: 18
Likes: 1
We have a 45 acre spring fed lake near Tyler, Tx. We stocked threadfin heavily the last two years. I generally see the lake surface temps stay around 48 or so most years. We hit -8 during this storm and 2/3 of the surface was ice. Lake surface temp hit 38-40. We experienced a significant threadfin die off, but certainly not 100%. Whether they will recover significantly or need restocking remains to be seen.


Ross Canant
www.myoldtools.com

Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
FattyMcButterpants, sdstohler
Recent Posts
The Big Chill
by Tbar - 04/17/21 04:24 PM
Pondering a pond site
by Rebecca - 04/17/21 04:23 PM
Hybrid striped bass and walleye, when to add
by Fyfer123 - 04/17/21 03:55 PM
Mixing Diquat and Cutrine Plus
by jim100 - 04/17/21 02:00 PM
PVC Trees
by Flame - 04/17/21 01:38 PM
Thoughts on a new 2.7 acre pond stocking
by Heppy - 04/17/21 10:27 AM
Catfish bluegill feeding
by Layne - 04/17/21 08:09 AM
Core
by esshup - 04/17/21 04:39 AM
New member, first time pond owner
by FishinRod - 04/16/21 10:52 PM
Leaky Pond - Pond sealer
by teehjaeh57 - 04/16/21 06:42 PM
Yellow-perch larvae and fry.(video).
by azteca - 04/16/21 02:18 PM
What color of light.
by LeahTerry - 04/16/21 01:42 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Establishing new Maine pond.
Establishing new Maine pond.
by Mainahs70, April 5
Mongo's New Pond
Mongo's New Pond
by Mongos Pond, February 27
Ice Ice Baby
Ice Ice Baby
by highflyer, February 21
ID?
ID?
by Quixotic, February 7
pond gone
pond gone
by Stressless, January 31

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.4