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Re: The Big Chill
anthropic #530986 02/25/21 07:35 AM
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My fish are back feeding well again too. Also seeing minnows in the shallow grass on shorelines! I caught 3 cnbg yeasterday and they were all about 9 inch and fat. Have seen no floaters so I think we are good! For now.


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That's good to hear.


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That sounds like a normal result - and good to hear. I hope the un-normal weather we had does not lead to many un-normal results.
















Re: The Big Chill
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So Saturday's NWS forecast was finally hitting the future actuals with single digit lows. I can't recall when (Saturday afternoon or Sunday afternoon) the power started showing up for three minutes...falling to thirty seconds...then gone for the duration until Thursday morning. Up to that point (knowledge from 1989) I had all pumps running (well pump frequently to feed streaming outside spigots (I'd wrapped those with heat tracing in 89) and some inside faucets with north wall piping, koi pond and big pond and the swimming pool heat pump heater. Everything froze solid. Ten feet from the fireplace it was 43 degrees. Next Thursday the power comes back, getting to 46 F outside, the well thaws out unknown, and we get to see everything that's leaking after about five minutes. Meanwhile the well is almost uncontrollable (the control box and pressure switch were scorched). Copper pipes crossing the attic that I had no idea existed burst in several places. We are replacing those spans with PEX (connecting back to existing copper where we can't reach). First though we fixed many pipes and capped some for the time being...hot showers and no more melting snow!. I've ordered a half dozen "Freeze Misers" from Amazon ($150) for that next cold event that may come in my afterlife. Ha ha.

I've come to realize that a little 5 kW Honda generator could have saved the well and the plumbing: Flip the well breaker when the power got crappy, wire a 220 plug to the contacts in the control box, fire up the generator. In lieu of a whole home generator (like a fifty kW commercial), I'd rather winterize, blow the water out of the pipes, shut off the power, leave for the Bahamas for a week.

Ole Billy Gates claims this was an event of climate change...look at the daily recorded weather history...there's over a hundred years of it.


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Re: The Big Chill
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I hit a 2 second test throw yesterday and it was ignored. But, I'm further North than you guys.


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Re: The Big Chill
Dave Davidson1 #531012 02/25/21 06:16 PM
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We had minor ice as far as power lines...really no ice load. My uncle, a few miles out of Fredericksburg, was without power until yesterday, twelve days. They had live oaks falling over from ice.


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Re: The Big Chill
DannyMac #531014 02/25/21 07:27 PM
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It seems the fish are actually happy, sometimes striking for a pellet as it is hitting the water. They don't fear me standing above the pond several feet, they line up for food instead! No dead fish, none have floated, yet. I got too many northern-Florida cross bass last spring, so I put four of them into a 1,000 gallon koi pond, no more than two feet deep. That froze down to about a foot, and, it leaked about four inches normally over several days. There are also some CNBGs in this koi pond...and one large goldfish. So far, after the freeze, I've seen only the bass and guppy minnows...the bass seem to be paired, a large and a small...they were no longer afraid of me as I stood there tossing individual pellets where the two pairs were located. They ate each pellet as though they were married...one would just sit there looking at it and the other would grab it...now your turn darling, that's what I saw, I swear!

At the big pond, with a mercury pond light, the last two nights, the two giant channels and their two smaller kin routinely cruise through, expecting more pellets to scarf...there again are the golden shiners, running clockwise around the light, maybe twenty of them, the remains of two seven pound infusions, each spring of the last two years (one is about six inches long!). Early dark, the large bluegill will line up just out of the light (faint shadows), expecting more pellets also. Never yet have I seen a predator bass or hybrid striper shoot by the light to grab a bite. Some of the bass (the new cross bred and the hybrid stripers) were feed trained, where are they at night? There be bait swimming peacefully around a light, why not eat some?

I think I was lucky that, prior to the cold event, the weather was warm for several days and I could run the aerators, the seven falls river and the fountain with only the thought that I was getting heat into the pond...had no clue yet of what was to descend upon us...but I ended up with relatively warm and well oxygenated water before the ice over.


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Re: The Big Chill
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We were swamped with migrating birds (lots of robins), eating seed like crazy (no robins), and our own resident mocking bird, redbirds and a few humming birds. All were frantic for liquid water! The hawks would occasionally cruise through.


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anthropic #531024 02/25/21 09:46 PM
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Great report, Dan!

I'm in the camp that anthropic's forage pond will be a pleasant surprise.

That 43 degrees 10' from the fire is some wrong feces though!!! Crazy!


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Re: The Big Chill
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Originally Posted by Sunil
Great report, Dan!

I'm in the camp that anthropic's forage pond will be a pleasant surprise.

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Of course, I have no idea, but I have been shocked at what kind of fish have survived through various bad scenarios in my neighborhood pond.


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Re: The Big Chill
anthropic #533984 04/16/21 04:56 PM
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Spring's here, and I'm just curious how your trees did. We lost some Crepe Myrtles, and sadly, one massive old oak, but other than that, the trees did fine. I have seen lots of pines that got hit hard, and have not seen any bamboo that survived.


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Re: The Big Chill
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Al, our trees did fine. Mostly pine, they are packed fairly close together which may have helped. Really fortunate that we had no tree nor fish kill, even in forage pond.


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Lost all the Indian Hawthorns and a Loquat tree here at the house in town. Haven't noticed any dead trees at the farm but there are a lot dead pine trees in the area.

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I lost a crepe myrtle and a live oak. Also some type of hedge shrub. A great many of the crepe myrtle are dead around here.


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Our Boston ferns and elephant ear plants died. Azaleas suffered, but making a comeback. Redbuds weren't affected that we could see.


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All of our large established trees survived at our house in town and at the farm (in Kansas). Of course, they are used to a few days of 0F almost every winter. I think 0F to -15F is less of a shock than you guys got in Texas where the trees are not adapted to temperatures well below 32F.

I hope my 1-2 year-old trees out at the farm survived. My new plantings always green out much later than the large trees (regardless of species). I saw buds last weekend, but I feel much better when the leaves pop!

The American Plums have already bloomed in the country, and the Sand Hill Plums are just about to bloom. I did get snowed on while working in western Kansas on Friday. I think our trees are adapted to "crazy" conditions in the winter and spring.

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We are supposed to have a low of around 25 on Tuesday night with a high on Wednesday of 36.... Depending on who you listen to, we could have 1" or 5" of snow on the ground Wed morning. Glad I am not stocking Tilapia for a while yet.......


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Low in mid 30s on Tuesday in east Texas. Trout loving it, glad I haven't stocked TFS or TP yet.


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All of my bamboo did survive but my sago palms look like Hell. Sometimes they gradually come back. Peaches,figs,roses,and azaleas all have come back!! Yaaaay!


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Lost lots of shrubs. And, surprisingly, some St Augustine grass


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That's right Dave. Me too. Including some ornamental trees.


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We have a crepe myrtle here in western PA, that looks like it died every spring, but in actuality, it's just a late bloomer.

It's an irritating plant as it exists right next to where I park my car, and it frequently impedes the drivers side door.


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Originally Posted by Sunil
It's an irritating plant as it exists right next to where I park my car, and it frequently impedes the drivers side door.

If you sneak up from behind with your loppers, you can usually prune a few of the offending branches before the crepe myrtle knows you are there. grin

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Originally Posted by Sunil
We have a crepe myrtle here in western PA, that looks like it died every spring, but in actuality, it's just a late bloomer.

It's an irritating plant as it exists right next to where I park my car, and it frequently impedes the drivers side door.
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It's an irritating plant as it exists right next to where I park my car, and it frequently impedes the drivers side door.

If you sneak up from behind with your loppers, you can usually prune a few of the offending branches before the crepe myrtle knows you are there. grin

When a crepe myrtle is pruned (all its top limbs cut off) the pruner is called a crepe murderer.

Crape murder is a term credited to a 1997 article in Southern Living magazine that refers to the needless late fall and winter practice of cutting crapemyrtles down to stubs. Why Crape Murder? Many people commit crape murder because they think it promotes better blooms in the coming year.
Crape Murder - Southern Living Plants
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