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Hey Yall- More questions!
If I were to stock completely YOY, how long should I wait before 'bucket stocking' some larger fish?
If I were to overstock the fisn in an ~1/10acre pond what happens in the near term-> 3 years? Assume only FHM, BG, LMB.
Goal being to get fishable predators as fast as possible. If that is the goal do I overstock the FHM only? OR stock all normally and add some older ones later (bucket stocking or purchase)?
Has anyone ever runa pond where Rainbow Trout were the top dog?
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It's been a really annoying few weeks. Short version- The Pond I was going to buy in Ellijay, Ga turned into a bust. Seller killed the deal. I may try again in a quarter or two unless something else comes along. Was a great spot.... Anyway.
I'm checking out two more ponds in the next week, one in Ellijay and one just down the road here in Florida. The one in Florida covers most of a 12 acre parcel, and we'd be able to use it a lot.
The other one in Ellijay has lots of potential with a 1/2 acre pond already.
X your fingers that I can get my new camp sooner rather than later.
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Consider the expenses of maintaining a 12 acre pond. Ask Fire is Hot about it.
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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DD1 is correct. When you get into the double digit pond sizes, just add a comma to the potential dollar amount spent. I might do some research on the 12 acre pond and it's history before I made a bid.
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Hi guys, Still really bummed about the previous deal not going through, still hoping that seller will get less crazy somewhere around Q2 of next year. I visited the pond that is on the 12 acre Parcel in florida. It's not exactly what I'm looking for but it's got some good upside too. There is ~3 acres of good dry land for some atv/dirtbike/camping fun. It seems to be a fairly natural florida "lake" and about 1/2 is on the neighbor's property (not ideal but not a deal breaker for me). Whole thing is probably 8 acres or so with big deep sections that are around 10' during dry season. Being a natural florida lake that means it's fairly swampy. Aside from the "lake" bit there are several acres that look to always have a few inches andup to a foot or so duing the rainy season. It may be possible to build out some dams to control this better, and luckily down here I have a good dirt guy who owes me pretty big. Maybe I can get him to do some work to pay me off. It's definitely got some fish in it (bass tilapia and bluegill probably some kind of catfish and gar), but its not chok full. Probably the alligators got em . Could be a fun spot to start off without having many expectations beyond adding some fish every year and a few feeders and seeing what happens. Especially if I can get good terms from the seller. Looks like a nice spot to put in a canoe and paddle around, maybe a jet ski (its deep enough in large parts). Keep things i catch elsewhere and move em over. Ya know, just fun. Since we are also moving to a house with more land so we can do some self sustaining gardening/light farming I'm also considering experiment with aquaponics which would result raising some forage fish (shrimp, bluegill ) which I could bring over to the lake. I'm going to do a second trip later in the month. Up in Georgia right now, if the weather cooperates Ill check out the one up here this weekend. Its closer to what I was initially looking for. ~8 acres with 1/2 acre pond on it in an area I can probably rent the site out as a campground when I'm not on it to help support my bass habits (get it? Im hilarious)
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You'll get there! I can tell you don't plan on giving up till you do.
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Bobbss-
There's a weird opportunity to buy a cheap Island about 2 hours north of me in Florida that might delay my pond. I mean... who doesn't want to own an island?
Getting machinery to put a real pond on the island would be.... not a thing. Maybe I could do it slowly over a few dozen camping trips with rented equipment. Gonna check out the island next week.
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At the moment I think I'm leaning towards the 12 acre parcel that has the big lake/pond on it that is slightly shared.
Im going to go back out this week or next and walk it again, I think there are ways I can dam up at least 1 large area to make a private pond section, and I'd also like to add pond space by another Dam for raising of forage (tempted to have a pure PK shrimp pond to see if I can get a good crop going for sale/feeding main pond).
Also looking into some smaller livestock to forage the rest of the land. Any particular livestock "bad" to have around a pond?
Is there anything I could raise (or grow) that would be beneficial? Especially if it keeps flying predators away.
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X your fingers for me guys, I'm opening negotiations on this... 13 acres total. ~6 acres of it is half of the 12 acre lake in th epics. Plent of space to convert into private ponds/grow out ponds. Plus space for a few heads of livestock, wild hogs and turkey/ducks... Great spot for a private campground, when the bass are big enough and we are all vaccinated Ill bring yall down https://imgur.com/gallery/KurbcQ1
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Hopefully going into escrow tomorrow. I have big plans for this little spot! I added an overhead showing what I'm going to do. Grow out area for fish before letting them into the larger lake, some animals on the dry ground. Next year likely netting off more areas for raising F1s to sell. https://imgur.com/a/KurbcQ1
Im going to ask a lot of questions, but only because I'm clueless
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