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Re: 2020 Deer Season
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I bought my first Hyperfire this year. For some reason even though they say they will accept a 512gb card I can't get it to work with a 128gb card but it works just fine with an 8 gb card. I purchased two 32gb cards, just haven't had time to get the cam back out again.

You have to use Lithium batteries in them. 12 AA's.

I have 4-5 Cuddeback Cams and while they are working good, a few seem to chew through batteries quicker than others and one keeps changing the time of day on me. I AM getting 300-400 pics a day on them though. Once a year is up, it costs $100 to get one fixed............ Never noses or just butts, except when the deer is looking right in the camera.

Got a buck and a doe on opening morning, and a busted up 6 point at the State Park Hunt today. Will try for 2 does there tomorrow. The opening morning buck was a 3 1/2 year old 11 point, today's was 1.5 years old.


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Re: 2020 Deer Season
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Took my 4th doe (out of a group of 4) with my crossbow, so now I am tagged out till muzzleloader (took buck during gun). Our habitat development seems to be keeping our herd healthy. We have had some recent neighboring owners let multiple hunters on their land which will probably take its toll (one with three guys in a 12 acre woods). We have found 2 gut-shot sub-dominant bucks rotting so far this year which is unfortunately a continuation of a pattern that has developed over the last few years since these recent hunters appeared. Coyotes are too full to even eat them. Nothing anybody can do since its all legal. Hopefully, the doe to buck ratio will not get back to where it was a decade ago when trophy buck were rare. Life is still good:)

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Texas implemented a 13 inch minimum a couple of years ago and I think it's paying off. Our biggest challenge is not more deer but less hogs. We need a lot more coyotes to help.


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Originally Posted by esshup
........I have 4-5 Cuddeback Cams and while they are working good, a few seem to chew through batteries quicker than others and one keeps changing the time of day on me. I AM getting 300-400 pics a day on them though. Once a year is up, it costs $100 to get one fixed............ Never noses or just butts, except when the deer is looking right in the camera.........

Esshup we have 12 of their linked wireless cams and 3 repeaters all of which have solar panels. You might check into the panels.


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We are MLD and have already filled all our tags. We can still apply for more from the biologist.

This one is still on the hoof. I liked the picture.

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Cool Pic!!! This has always been one of my favorites. Absent a Boone and Crocket at least.

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Re: 2020 Deer Season
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Originally Posted by Tbar
Originally Posted by esshup
........I have 4-5 Cuddeback Cams and while they are working good, a few seem to chew through batteries quicker than others and one keeps changing the time of day on me. I AM getting 300-400 pics a day on them though. Once a year is up, it costs $100 to get one fixed............ Never noses or just butts, except when the deer is looking right in the camera.........

Esshup we have 12 of their linked wireless cams and 3 repeaters all of which have solar panels. You might check into the panels.

Thanks!!! I'll check into those. Just fired up the Reconyx and put it out this afternoon. Will check it tomorrow to see how it's aimed. I did the walk test but I'm not a deer.


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Re: 2020 Deer Season
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Neat pic and nice deer Tbar. I'm going to have to do something like that fence for my 6 feeders to exclude hogs. My place is butt deep in pigs and they run deer off from the feeders.


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Originally Posted by esshup
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........I have 4-5 Cuddeback Cams and while they are working good, a few seem to chew through batteries quicker than others and one keeps changing the time of day on me. I AM getting 300-400 pics a day on them though. Once a year is up, it costs $100 to get one fixed............ Never noses or just butts, except when the deer is looking right in the camera.........

Esshup we have 12 of their linked wireless cams and 3 repeaters all of which have solar panels. You might check into the panels.

Thanks!!! I'll check into those. Just fired up the Reconyx and put it out this afternoon. Will check it tomorrow to see how it's aimed. I did the walk test but I'm not a deer.

Plus one on the cuddeback cuddelink cameras, I have three, the cuddelink cameras did eat the crap out of AA batteries, especially when they were forwarding pictures, but I bought D cell battery pack holders for them and it was a complete game changer for me, three or four months on the batteries so far and they still going strong.

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Re: 2020 Deer Season
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For those of you with the Cuddelink cameras. Do you have the "Cuddelink Cell" tied to it or just the base set up. I really like the idea of not having to make trips around to all of the cameras to retrieve SD cards. Could even use as security. Thanks.


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Re: 2020 Deer Season
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No Cuddelink system here.


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Re: 2020 Deer Season
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I tried Cuddeback and it went in the "disposable" bin. Maybe just bad luck,

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Re: 2020 Deer Season
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RAH , I had one about 8 years ago and could not keep battery's in it. Seemed to take good pic's but replacing (4)D Cell battery's once a week made me give up on it.


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Re: 2020 Deer Season
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I am no fan of Cuddyback ether. I replace a spot where I had a Moultree with Cuddyback and my picture numbers went way down. I replace it again with the Moultree and number of pics went way back up. Moultree is a much better camera for less money or I think they were cheaper. Reconyx by far the best I have but you have to dig deep in your pocket when buying one.


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Re: 2020 Deer Season
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I've said this many times. Put 2 cams on a feeder. They seldom agree no matter what kind they are.


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The most expensive things that I have purchased are those that don't function for the purpose that I bought them for. IMO, any amount of money is poorly spent if it ends up being spent for a paperweight (unless you bought it to be a paperweight).

Re: 2020 Deer Season
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Originally Posted by RAH
Took my 4th doe (out of a group of 4) with my crossbow, so now I am tagged out till muzzleloader (took buck during gun). Our habitat development seems to be keeping our herd healthy.

My brother, nephew, and uncle went out today to our Kansas farm for the opening of rifle season. I just got a text that they were shut out. All of the deer were moving through heavy cover, even though I have lots of open ground to traverse as the deer move from feeders to water to deep cover.

I keep raising Ninja Deer! I obviously lack your deer management skills.

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Re: 2020 Deer Season
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I think that our mix of heavy cover (multiple thick blocks of conifers and scrub thickets), open area (prairie areas and abandoned fields), and woodland keep multiple areas full of does and allow multiple mature bucks to roam our place. Things may go south in the future though, since a group of 3 hunters have been given access to a neighboring 12 acre woods and have established a pattern of gut shooting bucks which later turn up dead and rotting. Its all legal but not good. That's just how things go sometimes...

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Originally Posted by RAH
I think that our mix of heavy cover (multiple thick blocks of conifers and scrub thickets), open area (prairie areas and abandoned fields), and woodland keep multiple areas full of does and allow multiple mature bucks to roam our place.

I have similar cover (or at least the Kansas version). I still think my deer population is a little lower than it should be.

Do you have any food plots on your place? I have started hybrid oaks and pear trees for mast production, but none of the trees are mature. I do not have any food plots and did not know the value of that.

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Things may go south in the future though, since a group of 3 hunters have been given access to a neighboring 12 acre woods and have established a pattern of gut shooting bucks which later turn up dead and rotting.

How do they miss the deer vitals in a 12-acre wood? Are these rifle or bow guys? If rifle guys, you need to stick a free day pass to a shooting range in their Christmas stockings!

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We have so many does to buck ratio that large number of does don’t get bred. No one around here believes in taking does only bucks and young ones at that.... they won’t listen to logic and let a 3-1/2 or younger buck get a pass . It’s sad that people won’t manage the herd . There were36 does In the wheat field yesterday evening and 0 bucks

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My deer are fat, but I take my limit on does and the coyotes help lower the overall population. I have taken 4 so far and likely will take my last during muzzleloader. With all the diseases moving into deer herds, I do my best to keep my local herd in check. With multiple bucks being taken out on neighboring properties, I am not sure that I can keep the doe-to-buck ratio in check, but I will do what I can. I don't plant food plots, but my herd is finding plenty of food without it. I have a lot of browse on my place and the thousand or so oaks that we planted years ago should be producing acorns soon (some have already).

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Thanks, RAH.

I am definitely missing something on our farm. One neighbor has moderate cattle grazing on his place - and still has significantly more deer on his land.

We have a lot of forbs in our native tallgrass prairie, but I think I may just have too much grass acreage and not enough quality browse.

They have expanded the antlerless season in Kansas to take more does after January 1st.

Should I do counts by sex on game cams and when in the blind? I have some buddies that would definitely go take a doe to put meat in the freezer. At what ratio of does to bucks would I want to add a little more doe take at the end of the season?

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I am managing for trophy bucks so the ideal ration is supposed to be 2 does per buck which favors the largest bucks fertilizing most of the does. I was getting close before the new hunters joined the foray. They seem to be killing more than allowed (1 buck per year) because they often don't recover their first kill because they run so far without a blood trail. In addition to cover, I think my multiple water sources help keep the deer close. Prairie offers cover, but deer are primarily browsers. They seem to particularly like blackberry canes. I planted turnips a few years back but they never touched them. Deer seem to love turnips on other people's property, but I don't think that my deer ever felt hungry enough to try them. My best cover are the blocks of overgrown spruce which are off limits to people at all times. These provide both shelter and food. I judge my buck-to-doe ratio subjectively based on my sightings in the stand. I get out a lot, and can judge the trends from year to year. We have a large number of does, so I try to max out every year. I also helped a neighboring landowner recover a doe that ran into my place, and helped him with a long drag, and even loaded it on my vehicle and brought it to his place. Was glad that he took it and happy to help him, but it ran a long way before going down. Everybody has this happen occasionally, but it should not be the norm.

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It would be good if there was more volintary management of deer herds. I know of several of us in my area are trying but it is never going to be 100%. Texas does a good job i think through the TP&W where they restrick the taking of bucks if the racks are measured inside the ears and must be a 13" spread. For the most part that puts the bucks in the 3yr age range before they are legal to take. State Biologist are also involved when determining the number of does and bucks that can be taken. This is done by surveying the deer herds. It's not perfect way but i think Texas does a good job and better than many other states. They also do an outstanding job when it comes to the fish that live in the public lakes. Texas has nore trophy bass lakes than any other state. I can think of at least 4 of the best fishing lakes in the USA.

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I am managing for trophy bucks so the ideal ration is supposed to be 2 does per buck which favors the largest bucks fertilizing most of the does.

I am pretty sure my place is doe-heavy far beyond that ratio. Even if I add a few "unseen bucks" to my estimate of the number of males.

I was in the tree stand with a daughter two years ago and we had a herd of 13 does walk through during the rut. A huge doe (+250#?) was leading them through the semi-heavy cover. I am not an experienced enough deer hunter to know if a herd of does at that time of year is a common sight.

I expect I need to invite a few more guys out during antlerless season.

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