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Re: When do you give up on LMB?
anthropic #521406 05/22/20 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by anthropic
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I'm a little late to the game. Who is Bruce? Also can you put a link up to his Instagram?

Bruce is the mad scientist who either destroys the planet or makes fish grow in ways God never intended.
He's capable of doing both.


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Re: When do you give up on LMB?
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Originally Posted by Jimmi
Opps....this is a reply to RStringer -

Bruce Condello Instagram
I believe Bruce's arms have gotten shorter and his lips fuller since he went on Instagram.


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Re: When do you give up on LMB?
anthropic #521408 05/22/20 05:44 AM
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Frank, ponds can be money pits for sure when it comes to growing numbers of large lmb. Frustrated, been there done that! I think you have a great place from what I have seen. What, you have a 5 yr old pond? You have the genetics, just give it a little more time I think. Keep the pressure up on the small lmb and I think you will stumble into a large lmb or two. And enjoy those bg, res, hsb and the bass. As I set back and watch the guest that I let fish the pond, they have a great time, whether it be lmb, bg res or hsb they are after and I don't have all the large lmb that I would like to have. I am betting you have a couple of them out there too. Take a kid fishing and they will show you how great your place is.


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Re: When do you give up on LMB?
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Scandalous at it is to admit, I prefer eating LMB and BG anyway. Easier to fillet, too. So if I add RBT again, there won't be as many this time.

There's no need to fillet those nasty trout before you eat them.

Gut em, gill em, stuff some onion and butter in the cavity, season with lemon pepper, then wrap em in aluminum foil and toss em on the coals for a few minutes.

Done like that they're almost fit to eat.

That's how we always do our trout. Now do that with a Brook Trout and no other fish quite seems fit to eat!!

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Re: When do you give up on LMB?
anthropic #521416 05/22/20 07:30 AM
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I've pan-fried a few trout. Butchered em the same way I would for grilling. Roll em in whatever crumbs you like and toss em in the grease.
The scales on a trout are so small that they just fry up crispy with the skin. But it still tastes like trout. I don't think there's any fix for that.

Re: When do you give up on LMB?
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Originally Posted by Augie
I've pan-fried a few trout. Butchered em the same way I would for grilling. Roll em in whatever crumbs you like and toss em in the grease.
The scales on a trout are so small that they just fry up crispy with the skin. But it still tastes like trout. I don't think there's any fix for that.

As always, there lots of variables. There's a big difference between hatchery stocked after they've been stocked two weeks versus 6 months, there's a big difference between hatchery stocked trout and true wild trout and, in my experience, big difference between pellet fed trout versus no pellets fed. Aside from those differences the real fix for the trout taste is Brook Trout. They aren't even technically a trout, they are a Char. I know plenty of folks who refuse to eat trout unless it's Brook Trout. IF (big IF) Anthropic ever tries trout again, maybe he can try some Brookies - if you can source them. They won't grow as fast or as large as rainbows so should stay edible size for LMB - but that's not back to basics. Sorry for the hijack.


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Re: When do you give up on LMB?
wbuffetjr #521425 05/22/20 11:26 AM
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I'm with you on that. Trout park trout = yech. Trout that have been in the river for a few months are pretty tasty.
It's not easy catching those here in Missouri. Fish that see 100 hooks every day quickly get caught or get smart and very hard to catch.

Re: When do you give up on LMB?
anthropic #521426 05/22/20 11:28 AM
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Are we harvesting bass in this pond? And how many surface acres?

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Re: When do you give up on LMB?
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8 acres. Yes, anthropic does cull bass. IIRC, 200 last year, maybe 80 so far this year??

So, brah, where are you from........(FREAK)


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Re: When do you give up on LMB?
Sunil #521429 05/22/20 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Sunil
8 acres. Yes, anthropic does cull bass. IIRC, 200 last year, maybe 80 so far this year??

So, brah, where are you from........(FREAK)
I’m from your future


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Re: When do you give up on LMB?
anthropic #521430 05/22/20 12:13 PM
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Has anthropic figured out ways to tell females from males? Even an 80% accuracy rate would help with the process.


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Re: When do you give up on LMB?
brah #521433 05/22/20 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by brah
Originally Posted by Sunil
8 acres. Yes, anthropic does cull bass. IIRC, 200 last year, maybe 80 so far this year??

So, brah, where are you from........(FREAK)
I’m from your future
No spoilers, please. I want to be surprised.


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Re: When do you give up on LMB?
Theo Gallus #521434 05/22/20 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Theo Gallus
No spoilers, please. I want to be surprised.
Trust me, you will be


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Re: When do you give up on LMB?
brah #521435 05/22/20 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by brah
Has anthropic figured out ways to tell females from males? Even an 80% accuracy rate would help with the process.

I sure hope you're talking largemouth bass.


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Re: When do you give up on LMB?
anthropic #521436 05/22/20 02:33 PM
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You’re right. That statement, taken out of context would be worthy of starting a new thread.


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Re: When do you give up on LMB?
brah #521442 05/22/20 03:02 PM
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That's what she said.

On a serious note, I'd love to be able to correctly identify males from female LMB. Also those that are taking lots of feed, Florida strain vs Northern, and the telltale signs of an older small fish that will never do well vs a young one that probably will. Right now I mostly look for length (over 14 inches) and body condition (sumo wrestlers preferred to marathoners) before throwing them back.

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One of the inherent flaws with looking at body condition is that there is a 6 to 8 week period every year that a female largemouth bass can give the illusion of having a low relative weight because they have deposited eggs. If you could get to even an 80% accuracy with sex identification then you could harvest twice as many fish, but have a resultant significant decrease in females harvested. This would leave you a lot more fish with high-end potential but also simultaneously decrease intra-species competition.


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anthropic #521447 05/22/20 03:58 PM
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Good point. I have heard that it is very difficult to sex LMB outside of spawning season, but maybe that's not true.


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I think it’s time we all learn together. Let’s find some images showing vents.
Remember… We are only looking for 80% accuracy. Keeping a few females during your harvest would be OK as long as those aren’t fish with exceptional relative weights. If you have to check two boxes… i.e. must look like a male, and must have less than ideal relative weight, then we’re getting somewhere.

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Re: When do you give up on LMB?
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Yeah. I don't mind throwing back a fat male occasionally, nor keeping an underperforming female once in a while.


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That’s exactly how I wanted you to look at this.


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