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I currently have a seasonal creek with about 40 acres of watershed. Located in Kansas City, the soil has about 2' of topsoil, 3' of clay, then fratured bedrock (Limestone).

I plan to flood the creek area to create a 1-2 acre pond. I have checked with the Corps of Engineers and I cannot cover more than 300' of tributary.

In order to achieve the desired water level and depth, I would need to back up the creek more than 300'. I have had success in other areas of the property in removing the limestone in large boulders, which by the way I have endless uses for. Also have a 3 ton track loader and mini X. My plan is to remove as much limestone as possible, then backup the creek for the rest of the depth.

I have a meeting scheduled with somebody from NRCS to help with design but the weather is going to postpone that meeting.

My question is how likely it will be for my fractured limestone to hold water without a liner or clay.

Also is there any way to raise the pond level to be higher than the creek inlet? Could I add rip rap to the creek inlet to raise up the level?

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Originally Posted By: InspireKC

My question is how likely it will be for my fractured limestone to hold water without a liner or clay.


I would say slim to none. Seasonal creek to me means undetermined periods of time without water coming into the pond.

The pond has to have more water coming into it than it will be leaking or it won't be a pond for long. Just like a bathtub, everything is fine and dandy until the plug is pulled.......

Originally Posted By: InspireKC
Also is there any way to raise the pond level to be higher than the creek inlet? Could I add rip rap to the creek inlet to raise up the level?


Maybe I'm missing something, but water is self leveling, so if the pond is higher than the creek, it will run back out into the creek, and water doesn't run uphill.


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Thanks for your reply.

That part about the pond level being higher than the creek was actually about what is considered part of the pond and what part is undisturbed creek. If I could raise the elevation on the end of the creek it would not back up as far. It's probably more of a question for the guys that write the permits.

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