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I have seen them out in the middle of a wheat field a long way from any hole. They like buildings or brush piles more than open ground to make their dens. Look for any thing that they can crawl under, log old car. building that has no foundation under it. They do a lot of damage and their hole can be any size small 6 inch to large 16 inches. I would guess that they would go up to a 1/2 mile from there den.


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Thanks Nehunter, I'll expand my search area. I'll check some stump and brush piles and such from when they did the clearing.


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I received .02 inch of rain yesterday. Since June 21, when we got exactly one inch of rain, the biggest rain I have received was 0.41 inches. Most of the rains have been less than 0.25 inch.

We are very low on rainfall since the last part of May. The last "good" rain we received with appreciable runoff was on May 17.

Some places within 30 miles have received much more. A few places within that radius, a little drier than us.

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My place in west central MO is not too bad off as pond is only down about 5 inches from full. An hour further north is a different story - Son is having to chop corn to feed cows as pastures have dried up, and no one is selling hay. Serious drought: http://droughtmonitor.unl.edu/CurrentMap/StateDroughtMonitor.aspx?MO


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My place isn’t as bad as NW Missouri, but not much better. We keep getting .2” or .4”, enough to keep the crops going. My pond is still down 4’. Last rain with runoff was in March. All ponds around me are down almost as much, so I can’t worry about it.
I keep thinking Aug and Sept are the really hot dry months. It could get pretty ugly.


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Thing is, isolated severe thunderstorms are hit or miss, and very local.
A place about 10 miles south of here, three summers ago, got about 5 inches in a couple hours, while we only got a light shower. In that isolated storm, low lying outbuildings and baled hay and equipment in the fields along the Middle Fork Of White River were washed away, and roads were washed out.

Yesterday, a place about 30 miles north received well over two inches, a place about 15 miles away 1.3 inches, and we received 2/100. Nearly the same thing today, except different areas got the rain, but not us.

Rain has been very hit and miss, mostly miss for most in this area.

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The 2" I got this weekend was the biggest single rain event I've got since March. The only other rain I've got in July so far was .03". June wasn't to bad with just over 5", but that was probably spread over 10 or more rain events. April and May only added up to 6", and I know it was spread over 15 rain event. No matter how much I get, there is always someone close to me that got a lot more. I don't remember the last time that I got more than anyone else in my area, or even close. Seems like there is always somewhere close to me getting at least 2 or 3 times as much, and most of the time it seems it is the same areas getting all the rain.


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Bob, we got lucky this morning, and an isolated shower dumped just over 1.6" of rain in 70 minutes. Sadly, no run off to speak of, but I did not have to water the garden this morning, and my irrigation storage tanks now have their full 550 gallons in them.

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Well July turned out better than April or May. I was gone on vacation all last week but I got 1.5" of rain on Thursday. Adding how much I probably lost over the 8 days I wasn't here to take a reading, and how much more it was up from when I left, I figure it added at least 6.5" to the pond. Then I got another .70" yesterday evening that gave me about 3" in the pond. I have a small chance of rain tomorrow, but I'm at about 4.23" of rain for July, with all of it but .03" being from 3 rain events. Much better than I thought July would be.


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Good news Bob. I hope your water levels aren’t dropping. We will eventually get back to normal.
Wish I could report the same. We did get 1.2” Sunday. (.2” On Sat) That’s the first significant rain we’ve had since March. I’m afraid it’s too little too late for the soybeans in our fields. I will be up there Thursday to see if it added any measurable water to the pond. I doubt it. The ground is so dry it sucks up everything.
Hope we get some more soon.


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Thanks Jeff, glad to here you got something. My pond is still doing about the same, which isn't great, but is great compared to what it was.lol! I think the most I've lost in one day in a long time is about 1/2", and that is after I get enough rain to raise the level a fair amount. It seems to drop a little faster when it first goes up to a new level, and then starts dropping slower and slower every day. After loosing most of what I gained in March, it was at about 3.5', and it is at about 6' now. At least I'm gaining more than I'm loosing.lol! Most of the time it drops 1/4"-1/3" a day.

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Bobbss,
How's your pond filling?

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John, things are about the same. I haven't been getting enough rain to do any filling. I got .73" over 3 showers yesterday that put around 3" back in. At least I'm getting enough to keep it around the same level, about 6'. I keep hoping for a big rain, but haven't had a big one since March. I have to say, July and August have been wetter than I thought they would be.
My FHM are doing good and getting thicker. Can someone tell me how much longer they will keep spawning?


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The FHM should keep spawning for about another month, IME.

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Bob, hope you’ve received some of these recent rains. Looks like we have some coming in the week also. Some Could really come down hard. Hope to see a picture of the pond “full” soon.
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Thanks Jeff, I've got a little of it but no where near as much as you. I read your post that your up 2',which is great. I've only been getting enough rain to keep things around the same level, but it's better than just dropping. Lol! I'm hoping for a big rain this week. The map they showed on the news last night showed that we should both get a fair rain and a very good chance of up to 5". If we get that much, do you think it will get you full again? It wouldn't fill me up but it will sure be worth a picture. Lol!


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Bob,
If a good, hard 5" rain doesn't fill your pond, then you may have a lack of watershed. That will fill mine, and my watershed is only about a 6:1.

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John, I guess I could be wrong. The only time I've got that much since the pond was built, it was over a weeks time. This one would probably be over 3 days, with most on 2 days, which would do a lot better. If I was to get most of it all at one time, maybe it could get it there.

My watershed is about 7 acres. With over half of it being heavy woods with very heavy under growth.So hard to get run off. The pond is about .75 acre and 19' deep. Which is pretty deep for a small pond, and will take a little more water to fill. I have about 6' in it right now.


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We had 4.5” and it brought my pond up 2’. I still need 3’ to fill it, and those last three feet are even more water. I don’t think 5” will do it for me.
My ratio is close to 10:1 with almost 10 ac filling a 1 ac pond. 50% thirsty trees and 50% thirsty beans. All the rains we had from March until a little over a week ago, we had zero runoff. Maybe if we blacktopped everything I could get better results. Haha..
Every little bit helps though.


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Jeff, it looks like we're at about the same ratio. My wooded area hasn't given me any run off since march either. I was just watching the news and it looked like you might be getting some rain right now. Their showing 2"-5" with some pockets of 6" or more, but I won't hold my breath.lol!


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We ended up getting 2”, but it doesn’t look like we will get much more. They already changed the Fri/Sat FC to .25 to .5”.
Still looks good for St Louis and south.

Edit.. They’ve changed the FC again. Now it looks like I can get up to 5” more over the next two days. I may have to go up Sunday just to see how it’s looking.

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9 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep.
RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these.
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That's great Jeff! My rain gauge is still dry. When I watched the news last night it looked like the heaviest rain had shifted more to the east, as usual, so I will probably end up on the lower side of their predictions. I'll keep hoping, and maybe I'll get lucky.lol!


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No rain at all here. Four days ago they were saying 3 to 4 inches. The weather guessers are the only ones who can be wrong half of the time and still keep their jobs.

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John, I know what you mean. A few days ago they made it sound like the whiole area would be getting rain by now and it wasn't going to stop until Sunday. So far there has only been a few spot sprinkles.


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I have no faith in the forecasting of rain.

Total for today and for September is 0.05 inches.

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