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Just my two cents ... The link to the images of Dr. Bruce's BGxRES has a corresponding thread right here in the Pond Boss Forum. Dr. Bruce documents how he cultured the hybrid and we can be certain there is no PS or OSS in his hybrid. They look pretty much the same. Shorty catches both BG and RES in this lake but has yet to catch a PS or OSS. Isn't the simplest most reasonable identification the one Shorty originally posted?
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My thoughts as well, keep in mind there are very few pictures of BGxRES hybrids to compare with. The ones I caught at Prairie Queen all appeared to be male unlike the one Bruce posted a picture of. I would also point out that RES also have a faint spotting pattern on the flank, it's just blueish or blackish rather than orange. While I can't be certain of the parentage of these hybrids the long pectoral fins scream RES, it was one of the first things I noticed.
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Shorty,
You are aware that there is a fish farm that produces and sells BGxRES hybrids on a large scale and sells them? I'm sure they can give you many pictures of all different ages and sizes if that helps us recognize them?
There is a thread or two about these and they have been given their own 'name' of southern specklebelly sunfish (SSS) to help market them.
Would they be able to help based on their experience with this particular hybrid?
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Hatcheries typically produce one type of cross such as male BG x female GSF. A male GSF x female BG will produce a very different looking offspring so naturally occurring hybrids may look very different than the hatchery standard. I have seen pictures the southern specklebelly, I would like to see what they look like at larger more mature sizes.
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Just my two cents ... The link to the images of Dr. Bruce's BGxRES has a corresponding thread right here in the Pond Boss Forum. Dr. Bruce documents how he cultured the hybrid and we can be certain there is no PS or OSS in his hybrid. They look pretty much the same. Shorty catches both BG and RES in this lake but has yet to catch a PS or OSS. Isn't the simplest most reasonable identification the one Shorty originally posted? Thanks for looking up that link to the old thread and posting it here. I had not run across that one before. Really interesting. It is really beneficial, in my opinion, when old threads with related information are linked in new threads.
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You are welcome John. I'm sorry it took me so long to find it. I kept searching under "ever evasive" instead of "coveted" which held up my finding it.
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Mr Condello hasn't posted on here since October 2015. Is he still doing pond stuff? What happened?
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He appeared with Bob Lusk on one of the facebook videos, if I recall correctly. Other than that, the last I heard was that he was focusing on his site, bigbluegill.
7ac 2015 CNBG RES FHM 2016 TP FLMB 2017 NLMB GSH L 2018 TP & 70 HSB PK 2019 TP RBT 2020 TFS TP 25 HSB 250 F1,L,RBT -206 2021 TFS TP GSH L,-312 2022 GSH TP CR TFS RBT -234, 2023 BG TP TFS NLMB, -160
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Hybrid? I think I should post this question here, rather than the sexing RES thread. My apologies. 
9 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep.
RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these.
I think that's about all I should put in my little pond.
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Bruce is doing great. He’s working on a RES x BG project at his pond right now. Not sure why he doesn’t post but he’s as fish crazy now as he’s ever been.
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Hybrid? I think I should post this question here, rather than the sexing RES thread. My apologies. Yes! Not sure what kind but if I had to guess it would be a female RES x male HBG. Regardless, that is one cool looking fish.
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Hybrid? I think I should post this question here, rather than the sexing RES thread. My apologies. Yes! Not sure what kind but if I had to guess it would be a female RES x male HBG. Regardless, that is one cool looking fish. That’s why I took a picture of it. I thought it looked cool also. Thx
9 yr old pond, 1 ac, 15' deep.
RES, YP, GS, FHM (no longer), HBG (going away), SMB, and HSB (only one seen in 5 yrs) Restocked HSB (2020) Have seen one of these.
I think that's about all I should put in my little pond.
Otter attack in 2023
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Nice work using Wisc Fish site. Great info and pics.
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