Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
Mrnot111, pondbear, N.C.PondJoe, LloydLusk, Catch N 8 NTex
18,579 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics41,089
Posts559,417
Members18,579
Most Online3,612
Jan 10th, 2023
Top Posters
esshup 28,687
ewest 21,541
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 15,190
Who's Online Now
9 members (Chadsnider, Knobber, Errfoil, catscratch, Ron crismon, Bill Cody, Bigtrh24, Alligatorob, RossC), 780 guests, and 355 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
#470769 04/29/17 06:43 PM
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 37
D
Dfou Offline OP
OP Offline
D
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 37
Pure RES? And what's the 3rd fish

Attached Images
IMG_8127.JPG IMG_8128.JPG IMG_8129.JPG
Dfou #470771 04/29/17 06:55 PM
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 6,080
Likes: 1
Offline
Joined: Oct 2014
Posts: 6,080
Likes: 1
I'll guess the first two are RES and the third one is a BG


[Linked Image]
Be Brave Enough to Suck at Something New!
Dfou #470773 04/29/17 06:57 PM
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 605
Likes: 13
Offline
Joined: Jun 2013
Posts: 605
Likes: 13
I'll guess first is BGxRES cross
Second is pure RES
Third is pure BG


Forced to work born to Fish
Snakebite #470793 04/29/17 08:44 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 96
S
Offline
S
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 96
Snakebites guess looks right to me, although I have seen few BGxRES hybrids. Most of my RES hybrids are RESxGSF.

RES information and links to other RES related threads

Last edited by snrub; 04/29/17 08:57 PM.

John

I subscribe to Pond Boss Magazine
Dfou #470963 05/01/17 12:32 PM
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 37
D
Dfou Offline OP
OP Offline
D
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 37
Everytime I check my trap I find something new I didn't stock.

Attached Images
IMG_8139.JPG IMG_8142.JPG IMG_8143.JPG
Dfou #470972 05/01/17 01:31 PM
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,345
Likes: 102
Offline
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 2,345
Likes: 102
What you have there are mix bred Panfish with some traits of Bream.

I'm sorry to make light of your identification dilemma, but the fact that these fish can mix breed just kills me. Identification is so difficult with these deep bodied fish once they get mixed. I think that is why I grew up (to the young age of 40 plus) calling everything that came out a pond that was deep bodied and would fit in a frying pan a "Bluegill". Grandpa call them bluegill, Grandad called them sunfish. Does anyone really know once the inner breed?

My guess is there is some GSF genes in your last set of pics, but the rest of their make up...I just don't know, my eye has not been trained thoroughly...yet.


Fish on!,
Noel
Dfou #470973 05/01/17 01:36 PM
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 491
Likes: 13
M
Offline
M
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 491
Likes: 13
warmouth...excellent fish to catch. Those are decent sized too


Mat Peirce
1.25 acre southeast Iowa pond
LMB, BG, YP, WE, HSB, RES, BCP
Matzilla #470975 05/01/17 01:49 PM
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 3,959
Likes: 188
P
Offline
P
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 3,959
Likes: 188
Looks like a warmouth cross

Dfou #470987 05/01/17 03:12 PM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,541
Likes: 282
E
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Hall of Fame 2014
Lunker
E
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 21,541
Likes: 282
Look at the traits and compare.

EFish

Rock Bass, Ambloplites rupestris

Physical Description:
Compressed, stocky body
Large, terminal mouth
Dark-edged anal fin
Large cheek scales
Rounded pectoral fin
Almost straight-edged tail fin
Red eye
Olive-brown peppering on body
5 anal fins


Warmouth, Lepomis gulosus

Physical Description:
Deep, compressed body
Black opercular spot
Large, terminal mouth
Large eye
Tail fin lobes rounded
Pectoral fin rounded
Dark stripes on cheek
Dark mottling on body
Some mottling on fins

WicFish

Lateral Scales

Bass, Rock 39-43
Bluegill 39-45
Pumpkinseed 38-43
Sunfish, Green 44-51
Sunfish, Longear 34-38
Sunfish, Orangespotted 36-41
Warmouth 36-40

Opercular Flap Color

Bass, Rock Solid dark
Bluegill Solid dark
Pumpkinseed Dark with light spot at tip
Sunfish, Green Dark with light margin
Sunfish, Longear Dark with light margin
Sunfish, Orangespotted Dark with light margin
Warmouth Dark with light margin

Gill Rakers

Bass, Rock 7-10, long and thin
Bluegill 13-16, moderately long
Pumpkinseed 9-12, short and thick
Sunfish, Green 11-14, long and thin
Sunfish, Longear 9-11, short and thick
Sunfish, Orangespotted 10-15, long and thin
Warmouth 9-12, moderately long

Pectoral Fin

Bass, Rock Short, rounded
Bluegill Long, pointed
Pumpkinseed Long, pointed
Sunfish, Green Moderately long, rounded
Sunfish, Longear Short, rounded or blunt point
Sunfish, Orangespotted Long, rounded or blunt point
Warmouth Moderately long, rounded

Pigment Pattern on Sides and Soft Dorsal Fin

Bass, Rock Sides brown solid color or with dark mottling or many indistinct spots; fin mottled and/or spotted
Bluegill Sides dark or silver blue or bluish-olive, solid color or with dark vertical bars, sometimes fine irregular dark blue spots; fin solid, often with large diffuse spot at base
Pumpkinseed Sides olive or yellow-olive, with many irregular yellow-orange spots or blotches and sometimes faint vertical bars; fin solid or faint spots/mottling
Sunfish, Green Sides yellow or blue-green, with solid color, dark mottling, faint light spots or faint dark bars; fin dusky, spotted or with dark blotch at base
Sunfish, Longear Sides dark bluish-olive, with solid color or light irregular spots or blotches/mottling; fin solid or faint spots/mottling
Sunfish, Orangespotted Sides blue or gray, with occasional irregular orange spots, faint diffuse vertical bars; fin solid or faint spots/mottling
Warmouth Sides yellow-brown or olive with dark mottling, faint spots or faint bars; fin mottled and/or spotted

Other Characteristics

Bass, Rock 5-7 anal spines; 9-11 anal rays
Bluegill Opercular flap slightly elongated in large adults
Pumpkinseed None
Sunfish, Green Rarely a few teeth on tongue
Sunfish, Longear Opercular flap greatly elongated in adults
Sunfish, Orangespotted Opercular flap often elongated in adults; large sensory pores above lip; 8-9 anal fin rays
Warmouth Well-developed supramaxillary bone; teeth on tongue

Similarity Index

Bass, Rock Small juveniles very similar, adults moderately similar
Bluegill Moderately similar
Pumpkinseed Moderately similar
Sunfish, Green Moderately similar
Sunfish, Longear Moderately similar
Sunfish, Orangespotted Moderately similar
Warmouth N/A
















ewest #471007 05/01/17 08:18 PM
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 96
S
Offline
S
Joined: Oct 2013
Posts: 6,088
Likes: 96
I'm not familiar with either fish but found this information.

"Both rock bass and warmouth have reddish eyes, especially noticeable in freshlycaught rock bass. To tell them apart, remember that the rock bass has five (or more) spines in its anal fin, while the warmouth and green sunfish have only three." found here

Dark spots radiating from the eye. Warmouth artist conception

Rock Bass comparison -------- Warmouth

Last edited by snrub; 05/01/17 08:23 PM.

John

I subscribe to Pond Boss Magazine
Dfou #471034 05/02/17 05:48 AM
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 3,668
Likes: 57
T
Offline
T
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 3,668
Likes: 57
Rock bass, warmouth, goggleye, when it comes to eating sunfish for dinner, this is my favorite. The meat is sweet tasting. May is when I make my rock bass fishing trips on Caddo Lake. A worm and bobber as close as you can get to a Cypress tree or a group of Cypress tree knees.


Do not judge me by the politicians in my City, State or Federal Government.


Tracy
Dfou #471035 05/02/17 05:50 AM
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 3,668
Likes: 57
T
Offline
T
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 3,668
Likes: 57
Rock bass, warmouth, goggleye, when it comes to eating sunfish for dinner, this is my favorite. The meat is sweet tasting. May is when I make my rock bass fishing trips on Caddo Lake. A worm and bobber as close as you can get to a Cypress tree or a group of Cypress tree knees. Knocking on wood is what we call it. I think they spawn in the knees of the cypress.


Do not judge me by the politicians in my City, State or Federal Government.


Tracy

Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
Tony Chavis
Recent Posts
Poor preachers pond
by Chadsnider - 06/17/24 08:57 PM
New YP/SMB Pond in MI - Plan
by Bill Cody - 06/17/24 07:45 PM
Windmill System Suggestions
by Bill Cody - 06/17/24 07:28 PM
Aerator Run Time
by Commander - 06/17/24 07:00 PM
curly leaf infestation
by Errfoil - 06/17/24 05:05 PM
Need Help Identifying!! Thanks
by Boondoggle - 06/17/24 05:05 PM
Water willow
by RossC - 06/17/24 04:16 PM
What did you do at your pond today?
by Boondoggle - 06/17/24 04:03 PM
*!?&^#@ Muskrats!
by Knobber - 06/17/24 03:52 PM
Weed Identification
by cwright72 - 06/17/24 03:24 PM
Where to start?
by Alligatorob - 06/17/24 02:59 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
by Tbar, December 10
Deer at Theo's 2023
Deer at Theo's 2023
by Theo Gallus, November 13
Minnow identification
Minnow identification
by Mike Troyer, October 6
Sharing the Food
Sharing the Food
by FishinRod, September 9
Nice BGxRES
Nice BGxRES
by Theo Gallus, July 28
Snake Identification
Snake Identification
by Rangersedge, July 12

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5