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Beautiful fish, Al! That foreigner showed up in my driveway too! And regarding the Dodge truck, did he use the excuse it's a rental? And "pre-frontal" meaning he DID in-fact bring the rains along with him? (all in fun, Scott, all in fun ).
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I was told that there were 2# CNBG in the pond. Just like most fishermen, I think that was a tall tale.......
Still haven't seen one yet, but there WAS one that was 1 1/2 pounds... Beautiful markings on the CNBG, and no two were alike. I think Al should start a thread on the different color varieties of them, with good close up pictures.
Guess I'll have to wait until October to get one to push the 32 ounce mark. Then it's coming home with me to take a visit to Cecil's.
Just shy of 2800 miles in 6 days. Better to put it on the rental than on mine!! Unlimited mileage, so that was a no brainer. The October trip will be well into the 3,000 mile range by the time I'm done.
You Okies better get the roads fixed before the next trip, the drive down 35 South of Oklahoma City was brutal.....
p.s. The Dodge gets better mileage than the chebby or the ford.......... AND the controls inside the cab are more user friendly.....
On the way back I had a nice chat with the Alabama State Police about 75 miles before Lonoke, AR. No ticket and not even a warning, it seems that going slower than the speed limit also is a reason for them to look at you harder...... BUT, after a 15 minute conversation about ponds I might be going back down there for a consultation. Seems the first Officer is about to buy a house with a pond and needs advice. When the 3rd State Police car with flashing lights pulled up, the two that I were talking to said "Oh Sh.., that's the Supervisor, we gotta go!" LOL
Thanks guys for the hospitality!! I'll have some pictures to put up this evening.
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Scott, did the cops notice your shooting irons?
It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Scott and I did catch a few. It was fun to get some recreational fishing in, as opposed to management fishing. Here's my favorite pic of the day. This photo has not been retouched, and it shows a CNBG that was kept wet, and was never touched or contacted by anything hot or dry.
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Wow, what a beast of a fish!
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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Tony, I wish you could have been here for a CNBG day. We hit it on a day that the moon was right, the water temp was right, spawning cycle CNBG colorations, and pre-frontal weather.
We should have taken more pictures, but it's hard to do when you're just having a fun day of fishing with a friend.
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Scott, did the cops notice your shooting irons? Dave, the first officer asked to see the rental agreement and I said to him. "It is in the console. Before I open it up, I have my loaded 9mm CC pistol in there. What do you want me to do? " He said "Not a problem, go ahead and get it out." The long guns had so much stuff piled on top they couldn't see the cases. I think it's all in how you talk to the officer and how "at ease" you make him feel. Initially as he walked around to the passenger side of the vehicle I had rolled down both of the windows on that side so he could easily see into both the front and back of the passenger compartment of the truck.
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Al, I couldn't believe the color variations on the individual fish. I really think you should start a thread showing the different color variations. What was interesting to me is how fast the colors would change, just like a Mahi-Mahi caught from the ocean. When they are pulled out of the water they are lit up, and 3 minutes later they are a drab color. vs
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Spawning male CNBG - look like George's offspring to me !
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Spawning male CNBG - look like George's offspring to me ! Or do Georges CNBG look like Overtons CNBG? That's where Al sourced some of his.
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No George and Overton collaborated with George selecting certain quality CNBG from his ponds and Overton doing the same to come up with OTT CNBG. There is a thread on the subject. All of those are George's offspring.
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Outstanding fish Al! Your fishing partner has a shifty look about him, might bear watching closely. A wise man once told me to never trust a man with a beard and no hair on his upper lip, but this character is also of concern.....you know....that kind of Van Dyke facial hair. He's hiding something.....
Excerpt from Robert Crais' "The Monkey's Raincoat:" "She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."
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The elusive female HBG. 11 inches, and 1.5 lbs. VERY gravid, returned to pond. Been awhile since I caught one of these.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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Very nice!
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It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.
Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.
Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Wow , great CNBG and HBG photo's. Sprkplug- I have just stocked some HBG 4-6 and 6-8", given mixed species in the pond what type of average growth do you suspect feeding optimal bass/zeigler feed? What type of feed do you use now?
I am thinking of buying the Optimal BG feed as well to mix. Not looking for trophies but some close to a 1 lb would be nice.
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I think one pound is easily achievable, given the right conditions. In my opinion you should have some fish at, or just below a pound by fall. I am feeding optimal and I'm extremely happy with what I see. I started with aquamax, and experienced good growth with it also.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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Yo T, outstanding! Well done, she's a beauty!
Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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Tony, she looks like a football with eyes. Very nice HBG!!
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The elusive female HBG. 11 inches, and 1.5 lbs. VERY gravid, returned to pond. Been awhile since I caught one of these. Spark that wasn't caught in Indiana i suppose, right?
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"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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Sprk are you certain it is female ? If so I want to add it to the HBG thread. We only have 1 pic confirmed of a female HBG. Sprk's HBG copied from above.
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Yep, she was a she. Ewest, there are a couple photos in the HBG thread showing I think, 8 HBG females together on a board. All went under the knife that day, and all had unripe eggs. There should be a photo closeup there too. here it is: http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Main=22297&Number=282644#Post282644
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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I had no idea northern or hybrid Bgs could get so large.
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Oh yeah. My personal opinion is that coppernose offer no advantage over northern BG where ultimate size potential is concerned. I have no direct experience with coppers, just info I have gathered while researching.
"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1) And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1) Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT? PB answer: It depends.
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