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Rainman #471705 05/11/17 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted By: Rainman
Originally Posted By: Joe Fisherman
What do you guys think about this stuff? Says 2 1/2 gallons per 1 surface acre for pond use.

http://www.domyownpestcontrol.com/cal-fl...M5C3hoCMqjw_wcB



Pretty descent price with the free shipping.


The "Fine Print" from the Cal-Flo label under "Warranty and Disclaimer (final line).............

Statement for North Carolina: 2849 pounds of CAL FLO Liquid Limestone is equivalent to
2000 pounds of dry liming material (10.4 dry ponds/gallon).

...........An application rate can be whatever a company wants it to be, but the company clearly states that this is considerably less effective, pound for pound, than Ag Lime.



It says dry liming material. I wonder if they are referring to hydrated lime. If they're talking about AG lime the stuff would be more than worthless and no where near capable of the PH changes they claim.

Comparing the labels of Calcis and Cal Flo they seem to be comparable:


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I found this as well that might add to the discussion. There are 2 parts.
http://msue.anr.msu.edu/news/different_types_of_limestone_to_increase_substrate_ph


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Originally Posted By: John F
I'm pretty sure mud motors are air cooled. No water pump.


Correct.

Rex, did you get the water test results back yet? What were they?


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As I have searched I also found this... http://www.profileevs.com/products/hydra.../neutralime-dry

Now I have been checking my PH and alkalinity, my PH is around 6.8 or so in the evening however my Alkalinity barely registers as I check it so I believe it is below 20.
I am working to get some ag lime in place but have not gotten there yet.
Is this product mentioned above more related to the Hydrated lime in such it will shock the system and have little affect on the alkalinity?
I know Rex has recently used the liquid lime but didn't know where this might fall.
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Compare ag lime to the products before you try one.
















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Just an update to my original post.

I dumped another 800 pounds of powdered lime in the pond a few weeks ago for a total of 1200 pounds. Had to bag it in as there are no quarries who supply lime within a hundred miles of here. Tested the PH on the far side of the pond and it tested with a PH of 7.25.

I'm sorry I've seen the charts before but can't seem to find them now. What's the optimum PH level for fish health?

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IIRC 7.4 is the pH of fish blood and is the ideal # (average blood pH of 7.4 for fish as per SRAC). See -
https://srac.tamu.edu/serveFactSheet/112

Here are the charts. Focus on alkalinity not pH as alkalinity buffers large ph. swings while pH changes during the day.





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I run a hydroseeder and use it all the time, so if you do a search under hydroseed supplies it might come up

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how would I do the jar test with liquid lime or determine how much to spray on my pond since I have access to the seeder

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