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#445479 04/27/16 06:12 AM
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Never really thought about it much but don't remember reading about it here. Can cnbg crossbreed with res? What can they cross with?

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Yes CNBG can cross with the same species as BG. That includes all the lepomis and most of the Centrarchidae. That does not mean the crosses are common or viable to adulthood.

Centrarchidae (44 species: 33 extant, 11 extinct)


Acantharchus pomotis (Baird 1855) Mud sunfish
Ambloplites ariommus (Viosca 1936) Shadow bass
Ambloplites cavifrons (Cope 1868) Roanoke bass
Ambloplites constellatus (Cashner and Suttkus 1977) Ozark bass
Ambloplites ruprestris (Rafinesque 1817) Rockbass
Archoplites †clarki (Smith and Miller 1985) Clarkia perch
Archoplites interruptus (Girard 1854) Sacramento perch
Archoplites †molarus (Smith et al. 2000) Ringold sunfish
Archoplites †taylori (Miller and Smith 1967) Lake Idaho sunfish
†Boreocentrarchus smithi (Schlaikjer 1937) Healy Creek sunfish
Centrarchus macropterus (Lacep`ede 1801) Flier
Enneacanthus chaetodon (Baird 1855) Blackbanded sunfish
Enneacanthus gloriosus (Holbrook 1855) Bluespotted sunfish
Enneacanthus obesus (Girard 1854) Banded sunfish
†Plioplarchus septemspinosus (Cope 1889) John Day sunfish
†Plioplarchus sexspinosus (Cope 1883) Sentinel Butte sunfish
†Plioplarchus whitei (Cope 1883) Laramie sunfish
Pomoxis annularis (Rafinesque 1818) White crappie
Pomoxis †lanei (Hibbard 1936) Ogallala crappie
Pomoxis nigromaculatus (Lesueur 1829) Black crappie


Lepomis auritus (L 1758) Redbreast sunfish
Lepomis cyanellus (Rafinesque 1819) Green sunfish
Lepomis gibbosus (L 1758) Pumpkinseed
Lepomis gulosus (Cuvier 1829) Warmouth
Lepomis humilis (Girard 1858) Orangespotted sunfish
Lepomis †kansasensis (Hibbard 1936) Rhino Hill sunfish
Lepomis macrochirus (Rafinesque 1819) Bluegill
Lepomis marginatus (Holbrook 1855) Dollar sunfish
Lepomis megalotis (Rafinesque 1820) Longear sunfish
Lepomis microlophus (G¨unther 1859) Redear sunfish
Lepomis miniatus (Jordan 1877) Redspotted sunfish
Lepomis peltastes (Cope 1870) Northern longear sunfish
Lepomis punctatus (Valenciennes 1831) Spotted sunfish
Lepomis †serratus (Smith and Lundberg 1972) Keigh sunfish
Lepomis symmetricus (Forbes 1883) Bantam sunfish


Micropterus cataractae (Williams and Burgess 1999) shoal bass
Micropterus coosae (Hubbs and Bailey 1940) Redeye bass
Micropterus dolomieu (Lacep`ede 1802) smallmouth bass
Micropterus floridanus (LeSueur 1822) Florida bass
Micropterus henshalli (Hubbs and Bailey 1940)
Micropterus notius (Bailey and Hubbs 1949), Suwannee bass
Micropterus punctulatus (Rafinesque 1819) spotted bass
Micropterus †relictus (Cavender and Smith 1975) Chapala bass
Micropterus salmoides (Lacep`ede 1802) largemouth bass
Micropterus treculi (Vaillant and Bocourt 1874) Guadalupe bass


The only crosses with total inviability in
both directions are M. salmoides X (Ambloplites rupestrus,
Pomoxis annularis, or Pomoxis nigromaculatus) at 28.94 million
years, while 10 other crosses of that age have some
viability in one or both reciprocal directions (see online Appendix).
Centrarchids also retain nonzero viability and heterosis
for much longer than most other taxa.

Last edited by ewest; 04/27/16 09:57 AM.

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Wow!!! Thanks Ewest

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