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Will the PF525 do everything the other one does? Is that what we will be using?


The PF525 does not have the solar macro like the ABB, but will run from a DC solar source, and you can tweak it to almost everything except for the MPPT. But, MPPT panels on the cell level would eliminate that requirement.

I was reading on a solar install for a gub agency in NY where the guy set it up strictly DC and they used the PF753's on that.

You do know, that if this ever happens, I'm gonna have to go.


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Well, hell yeah man I would hope you would come out!! Maybe Esshup would come too! Let's do it next September!


Yeah, you guy's go hunting/fishing/exploring, having fun, while I sit at my little plastic table with a dozen or so manuals open on my laptop to tweak parameters in.


Screw that! I'll be right there with you trying to learn as much as I can! We will have an added bonus out there now..... My life long friend and hunting partner is moving there. He has lived in SE Iowa for the last 10 years. He is selling 800 acres in Iowa and rolling it into a big place in Town. He just landed at the airport today so he could walk a few ranches he has been looking at. One is 1,000 acres with world class mule deer hunting on it!! Gonna be crazy!

You help me get this solar rig up and running out there and I promise you some fun!! That is if you will finally take a vacation! haha

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Sounds like fun!

I'll chat with the local Allen Bradley drive guy next week and get his take on running a PF525 on solar.

I saw a video where a guy setup a low cost AC Tech drive on solar. No MPPT on that drive and was running a 2HP motor from 10 panels which he said were just cheap Chinese panels.

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Well..... Got some pics from yesterday. Not very encouraging. I am starting to think I won't have any trout left this spring. Judging by the snow at the base of the windmill, it looks like approx 20" of snow down there which is kind of confusing. There must be a good bit of wind blowing that snow off because there is clearly over 4' of snow right up the hill all around the cabin, but I guess it is not enough wind to keep holes open in the ice.




This pic gives some perspective of snow depth in a traditionally less windy area 200 yards from the pond.

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Just a thought....What pressure can your compressor generate? Is it possible you have built up a "high" pressure bubble under the thick ice and snow blanket? Maybe now the compressor is just blowing off thru the relief valve?

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It will pump 28 psi


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I guess there is also the scenario that there are just not long enough periods of sustained wind to keep up with rate of ice formation?


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Is it possible pond water has backed up the airline when your compressor was not running, and frozen into an ice plug, preventing the passage of air when the wind returns to spin the mill?
I've experienced a similar block when power went off to my pump at near zero temps. I can shovel snow from around the airhose to let the sun warm the line, returning the aerator to operation. Not so easy for you!
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All I can say is I don't know. I suspect that it is like Bill D said, not enough sustained winds to keep it open. It is hard to quantify tho. When we are there in the summer, the windmill would spin everyday. How long does it need to spin to open a hole right now, I have no idea. The last time they went up was Christmas eve. There were thin spots in the ice but no holes.

I thought the pressure in the airline would keep water from backing up the line?

Thay are going up again next weekend. We will see if anything changes.


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.....I thought the pressure in the airline would keep water from backing up the line?

Thay are going up again next weekend. We will see if anything changes.


FWIW My diffuser stations have check valves. Unless the valves fail, it's not possible for water to go back up the line. If you remember what diffuser brand you have, should be easy to verify if they have a check valve.


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They are vertex. I was pretty sure they had check valves.


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Well my buddy is in the process of trying to make it up to my cabin to check on the place, snap some pics and do a firmware update on my remote camera. They have been getting pounded with snow. This pic is at the main gate (that thing sticking up in the snow) at approx 8,000' elevation. That gate is about 5' or 5.5' tall. Still got to go up another 2,000' in elevation to get to our place. Not sure if they are going to make it or not.




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Wow that is insane! Just don't know how you deal with that on a pond with air without being there to keep up with it... That's some snow dude!!

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Just curious....How the heck do you open the gate??! grin


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What you need is a monster snow blower on that snow cat when you get it!

Nice clear skies tho. Should make some power.

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I gotta ask. How long is the track and how big are the paddles? Are the skis wider too? I see they are making 174" long tracks now.....


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Me thinks my old Yamaha GP433 snowmobile would be stuck there till spring! eek

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Well he made it up to his cabin and could go no further! Said 60" of fresh snow at his place! He guessed even more at ours. He said in his younger days he would have tried to push it, but not anymore. Gonna try again next weekend after it has hopefully settled some.

Interestingly, he said his wind meter registered up to 40 mph winds since he had been there two weeks ago! I KNOW we are getting some of that! Bet it still doesn't have a hole open tho. We will see....

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Wow that is insane! Just don't know how you deal with that on a pond with air without being there to keep up with it... That's some snow dude!!

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RC - It is definitely proving to be a challenging environment to say the least.

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Just curious....How the heck do you open the gate??! grin

Bill D - get on the backside of the gate and shovel away enough snow to open it!

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What you need is a monster snow blower on that snow cat when you get it!

Nice clear skies tho. Should make some power.

JKB - The Cat will have a blade on it. Maybe someone will be brave enough to drive it around on the lake and blade off strips of snow! smile
Tons of sun that's for sure! All these pics are definitely educational. Down by the lake must be getting a ton of wind. In the last pics there wasn't near the snow down by the windmill that there was up by the cabin. I am very interested to see if that is still true after all the new snow. If so, I wouldn't be near as worried about snow staying on the panels. Last pics showed south faces of stuff snow free!

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I gotta ask. How long is the track and how big are the paddles? Are the skis wider too? I see they are making 174" long tracks now.....


I know his machine is fairly new and has 160 horse power. Not sure about the track length and all that, but I will ask him.


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Well, my buddy was able to make it up today.

Good news..... carport hasn't collapsed yet.

Bad news..... still no holes in the ice.





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That is a lot of snow!!!

Solar panels will have to go up in the air quite a bit.

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That is a lot of snow!!!

Solar panels will have to go up in the air quite a bit.


It still isn't as deep down by the lake thanks to all the wind. Also, definitely noticing everything with a South facing slope is shedding/melting all snow. I think we will be home free as far as keeping the panels open.


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Just got back from a trip to the cabin. Flew out and rode up on snow machines. It has been extremely warm up there and a good bit of snow is gone/settled. Still no dang hole open in the ice. Had enough wind up there to blow over some trees roots and all. I know those could be one time big gusts, but overall we have a lot of wind up there. I am pretty disappointed the windmill hasn't been able to keep a hole open. At this point, I have no way to know or test if this unit has failed again or not. I will be installing an American Eagle this summer for some redundancy. Will also be a nice test to see how the American Eagle unit performs since it doesn't seem like you can find anyone that runs one.


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If you have a pressure gauge on the windmill, that will tell you whether it is operating when the blades are spinning or not.


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