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I was rushing around putting talapia in bags in five gallon buckets and ran out of oxygen! I was already stressed and only got one out of five bags filled. Apparently I had left the valve slightly open from the last time I used -- it is the only thing I can figure. So slowly emptied the tank over the last couple of weeks.  Not an expensive mistake but will have to start over tomorrow. Fortunately getting a full tank was easy.
If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.
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Cecil, not ta make light of your problem but every time ya mess up, stifled snickers abound across the forum.
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Make sure you treat that fitting (ball end) on your regulator with care. You could put a nick or ding in it and no matter how hard you tighten it down, it will still leak. They only last so long anyway from constantly changing tanks, so you'll want to keep an eye on that.
Easy way to tell if the seal (or anything else) is leaking is to open the valve on the tank, then close it and watch the gauges.
Rule of thumb since I was a kid is to always close the valve on the tank when you are not using it. Tell that to employees who don't have to pay for the welding gasses. Tri mix and C25 ain't exactly cheap when it leaks out over night.
I eventually made up signs and hung them on all of the tanks that explained the procedure on how to check for leaks and to let me know so I could get the equipment repaired.
All of the leaks we ever had were due to a nick, ding or wear to the fitting that attaches the regulator to the tank. I did actually have a tank valve that leaked, but that's 1 out of hundreds of refills over the years, and they honored that.
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Are you guys just using plain old CGA fittings I assume as a CGA-540 is a common size for the King Valve for commercial grade O2. Where might I locate the setup you guys are talking about that Cecil is using. I do a bit of work with all sorts of different fittings building our gas racks(for diving) and such for our company. If this was something besides a King Valve being left on issue, I may be able to help out some.
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Cecil, not ta make light of your problem but every time ya mess up, stifled snickers abound across the forum. Thanks for the advice Bob. I am still a newbie ya know. I didn't know I was supposed to "stifle" the snickers....next time I will stifle for sure!  I love reading of Cecil's pondmeister adventures gone a little wrong sometimes. His luck is the same as mine.
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I was tryin ta be polite. Guess I need some fine tuning. For the few mishaps he has had he has a hundred fold super accomplishments. One was taking me under his wing. Now if he would stop beating the Bongo drum.
Dang it Bill, ya always get me all wound up. Ya suppose yer wife could stir us up something wonderful from that bowl of Wax worms? We could get Pat ta taste test em for us.
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Nothing worse than that sinking feeling you get when you finally get everything jigged up just right, ready to tack it together, and give the C25 valve a twist only to discover it's already open.
Hmmm, did some welding today. Now that I've posted this, guess I'll slip out to the shop and double check even though I'm SURE I closed it down.
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"Forget pounds and ounces, I'm figuring displacement!"
If we accept that: MBG(+)FGSF(=)HBG(F1)
And we surmise that: BG(>)HBG(F1) while GSF(<)HBG(F1)
Would it hold true that: HBG(F1)(+)AM500(x)q.d.(=)1.5lbGRWT?
PB answer: It depends.
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Ya suppose yer wife could stir us up something wonderful from that bowl of Wax worms? We could get Pat ta taste test em for us.
LOL When I was dating her in Thailand, a bunch of her friends took me to a roadside stand selling fried bugs. Trying to go along with the flow, I ate fried crickets, grasshoppers, scorpions and the biggest dang beetles you have ever seen. My wife watched me do it then laughed. She said she would never eat any of that stuff! I hate it when I do stupid stuff! but .....Things you will do when yer in love!
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Hmmm, did some welding today. Now that I've posted this, guess I'll slip out to the shop and double check even though I'm SURE I closed it down.
+1 I just checked the propane tank on the old barbecue I used earlier!
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Make sure you treat that fitting (ball end) on your regulator with care. You could put a nick or ding in it and no matter how hard you tighten it down, it will still leak. They only last so long anyway from constantly changing tanks, so you'll want to keep an eye on that.
Easy way to tell if the seal (or anything else) is leaking is to open the valve on the tank, then close it and watch the gauges.
Rule of thumb since I was a kid is to always close the valve on the tank when you are not using it. Tell that to employees who don't have to pay for the welding gasses. Tri mix and C25 ain't exactly cheap when it leaks out over night.
I eventually made up signs and hung them on all of the tanks that explained the procedure on how to check for leaks and to let me know so I could get the equipment repaired.
All of the leaks we ever had were due to a nick, ding or wear to the fitting that attaches the regulator to the tank. I did actually have a tank valve that leaked, but that's 1 out of hundreds of refills over the years, and they honored that. Excellent points but I took the regulator valve completely off when I was done last time. Must have left the tank valve itself slightly open.
If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.
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Make sure you treat that fitting (ball end) on your regulator with care. You could put a nick or ding in it and no matter how hard you tighten it down, it will still leak. They only last so long anyway from constantly changing tanks, so you'll want to keep an eye on that.
Easy way to tell if the seal (or anything else) is leaking is to open the valve on the tank, then close it and watch the gauges.
Rule of thumb since I was a kid is to always close the valve on the tank when you are not using it. Tell that to employees who don't have to pay for the welding gasses. Tri mix and C25 ain't exactly cheap when it leaks out over night.
I eventually made up signs and hung them on all of the tanks that explained the procedure on how to check for leaks and to let me know so I could get the equipment repaired.
All of the leaks we ever had were due to a nick, ding or wear to the fitting that attaches the regulator to the tank. I did actually have a tank valve that leaked, but that's 1 out of hundreds of refills over the years, and they honored that. Excellent points but I took the regulator valve completely off when I was done last time. Must have left the tank valve itself slightly open. Then you screwed up! 
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Make sure you treat that fitting (ball end) on your regulator with care. You could put a nick or ding in it and no matter how hard you tighten it down, it will still leak. They only last so long anyway from constantly changing tanks, so you'll want to keep an eye on that.
Easy way to tell if the seal (or anything else) is leaking is to open the valve on the tank, then close it and watch the gauges.
Rule of thumb since I was a kid is to always close the valve on the tank when you are not using it. Tell that to employees who don't have to pay for the welding gasses. Tri mix and C25 ain't exactly cheap when it leaks out over night.
I eventually made up signs and hung them on all of the tanks that explained the procedure on how to check for leaks and to let me know so I could get the equipment repaired.
All of the leaks we ever had were due to a nick, ding or wear to the fitting that attaches the regulator to the tank. I did actually have a tank valve that leaked, but that's 1 out of hundreds of refills over the years, and they honored that. Excellent points but I took the regulator valve completely off when I was done last time. Must have left the tank valve itself slightly open. Then you screwed up! Yup! The good thing is I won't do it again!
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Don't feel alone Cecil.
We had a gang of O2 tanks at work. It was hooked up to a mechanical torch that was used to cut really, really thick steel circles 8"-10" or so in thickness. IIRC 12 of the large O2 tanks all hooked together, one valve turns them all on. The employee turned off the valve at the torch tip and not the gang. It emptied itself over night.
My BBQ. I couldn't figure out why the flame was low and wouldn't get bigger even tho the tank was full. I screwed around with it for about 1/2 hr with the BBQ on and burning before I realized the rubber line had a small crack in it. THAT would have been interesting if the propane would have built up around the tank!!!
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Don't feel alone Cecil.
We had a gang of O2 tanks at work. It was hooked up to a mechanical torch that was used to cut really, really thick steel circles 8"-10" or so in thickness. IIRC 12 of the large O2 tanks all hooked together, one valve turns them all on. The employee turned off the valve at the torch tip and not the gang. It emptied itself over night.
My BBQ. I couldn't figure out why the flame was low and wouldn't get bigger even tho the tank was full. I screwed around with it for about 1/2 hr with the BBQ on and burning before I realized the rubber line had a small crack in it. THAT would have been interesting if the propane would have built up around the tank!!! Yikes!  Bob-O, No worries about showing my mistakes. I'm secure enough to eventually laugh at myself and learn from it. Someone once told me the best lessons are painful. They're the ones you rarely repeat.
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Don't feel alone Cecil.
We had a gang of O2 tanks at work. It was hooked up to a mechanical torch that was used to cut really, really thick steel circles 8"-10" or so in thickness. IIRC 12 of the large O2 tanks all hooked together, one valve turns them all on. The employee turned off the valve at the torch tip and not the gang. It emptied itself over night.
My BBQ. I couldn't figure out why the flame was low and wouldn't get bigger even tho the tank was full. I screwed around with it for about 1/2 hr with the BBQ on and burning before I realized the rubber line had a small crack in it. THAT would have been interesting if the propane would have built up around the tank!!! Neighbor kid down the road tossed some black powder in their wood stove in the garage. Didn't need a propane leak for the tank sitting in the garage to explode I went over there to see what's up after a while, and will never forget the volunteer guys just laughing their butt off at how stupid this was.
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One of my college roommates from Harper Wods Michigan said his little brother cranked down on a loaded shell casing in a vise. I know he got in deep doo doo with his dad, but it's been so long ago I can't remember if the bullet fired.
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Was able to pump up the bags this morning and get the tilapia to one of the schools. I got my dad away from a wiring job he's doing for my master spa addition long enough to be my third hand. He came overvwhen I started cussing. They make it look so easy at the fish hatcheries!
Three more schools to go! Have to wait for them to get back from an FFA convention in Indy. I think it's Indy?
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Cecil has an apprentice!! Early this morning a student at Ledo HS in Tampa Fl left a nozzle on a propane tank open. The entire school had to be evacuated.
Next thing ya know they're gonna want to import some damned Muskies.
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Bob, that could have been the same student from C-Ville when I was in high school. He knocked over a torch rig and the valve on the O2 tank broke off sending the tank thru 2 cement block walls ending up in the Ag room. I heard he never graduated, because he also cut his finger off in wood shop class, then burned down the school Ag barn with his buddy building a camp under the hay bales while taking a pile of hay with match to shed some light on the subject. I think they shipped him off to Florida
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Was Lynard Skinnard the shop teacher?
There seems ta be quite a collection of "unusual" characters down here. I consider it ta be a relaxed atmosphere.
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I've been to FL, and "there are" "unusual" characters. No intent on my part to ever buzz that way. Was at the airport in Miami, walked into a shop not knowing and all the guy's in there looked like they wanted to give me a free Prostate Exam 
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The entire school had to be evacuated.
Next thing ya know they're gonna want to import some damned Muskies. One of the schools I set up, the ag teacher was approached by the school attorney that is a musky angler, to rear muskies in the system I put together on my dime. She asked me what I though of it. I told her not much as part of the deal was I get something back on my investment. I never heard about it again. LOL
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Was at the airport in Miami, walked into a shop not knowing and all the guy's in there looked like they wanted to give me a free Prostate Exam You might imagine my shock/dismay and fear when the first night after picking up a certain Turkish gentleman in Atlanta, GA we stopped at a hotel near Tampa, FL for the night, when he reached into his black pouch to pull out over $4,000 in cash to set on the counter to count out his half of the hotel room  After that we had a little chat
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Even though my doctor and I have become well acquainted over the years I still feel the need to immediately go home and take a long hot shower after receiving my annual digital examination.
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One of the schools I set up, the ag teacher was approached by the school attorney that is a musky angler, to rear muskies in the system I put together on my dime. She asked me what I though of it. I told her not much as part of the deal was I get something back on my investment. I never heard about it again. LOL How did he plan on feeding them, and where was he going to get them from?
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