Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
Shotgun01, Dan H, Stipker, LunkerHunt23, Jeanjules
18,451 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics40,899
Posts557,070
Members18,451
Most Online3,612
Jan 10th, 2023
Top Posters
esshup 28,411
ewest 21,474
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 15,110
Who's Online Now
15 members (DenaTroyer, Blestfarmpond, Snipe, RAH, Freg, Rick O, Justin W, bstone261, Theo Gallus, esshup, jpsdad, Bing, e_stallman, FishinRod, Augie), 754 guests, and 179 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 7 of 32 1 2 5 6 7 8 9 31 32
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
W
OP Offline
W
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
Originally Posted By: snrub

Just keep in mind the bubbles add only minimal O2 to the water. The bubbles pump lower water to the surface where the air/water interface adds the O2. The bubbles are really just a low energy water pump. It is the movement of lower water to the surface that is the key, not the bubbles themselves.


Yes Sir I understand that. Thanks so much for the input. I am trying to soak up as much knowledge as I can between trips out there! haha

Anyone have any opinion about my water temps? How is 61 degrees for trout? I am not sure what temps are at 12pm, guess I should measure that, but 61 degrees was recorded at the end of July. Should be as hot as it will ever get up there.


Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,411
Likes: 788
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Online Content
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,411
Likes: 788
Those temps are fine. When you are 70°F and above is when you have to start worrying.


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,692
J
JKB Offline
Hall of Fame 2015
Lunker
Offline
Hall of Fame 2015
Lunker
J
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,692
Originally Posted By: esshup
Maybe the last visit in the early winter you tip the solar panel more vertical so it's facing the sun at a better angle for the winter? That would help the snow slide off easier too. In the Spring, flatten it out as the sun rises in the sky.


That's about the nail right there.

Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
W
OP Offline
W
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
ok, back from the hunt and trying to catch up. Here are the new DO reading in PPM. I took the readings at the same time as before, about 30 minutes after sun up.

Depth(ft)_______DO(PPM)_____Temp(F)
1________________6.28_______55.6
2________________6.19_______55.5
3________________6.13_______55.5
4________________6.07_______55.5
5________________5.57_______55.4
6________________4.68_______55.3
7________________3.52_______55.0
8________________2.71_______54.9
9________________2.21_______54.8
10_______________1.33_______54.6
11_______________.55________54.4
12________________0_________54.0


I have water samples in to a lab and should have results in about two weeks. Sure hope these damn fish make it thru the winter. I caught a HUGE 19" rainbow while I was there! Had to be pushing 2lbs. Huge swimming football! No telling how big they could be next year!

Last edited by wbuffetjr; 12/07/18 12:07 PM.

Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,110
Likes: 477
B
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
B
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,110
Likes: 477
For a non-aerated pond in your location the DO and temps appear fairly normal for late summer. When the fall turnover occurs the pond should be reoxygenated top to bottom and DO should be 9-10ppm around time ice formation. From your DO profile can I assume that your water clarity was around 3ft?


aka Pond Doctor & Dr. Perca Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,692
J
JKB Offline
Hall of Fame 2015
Lunker
Offline
Hall of Fame 2015
Lunker
J
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,692
Bill, do you have data on ponds around a 10,000 ft elevation? I have been trying to find something, but no luck.

Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
W
OP Offline
W
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
Originally Posted By: Bill Cody
For a non-aerated pond in your location the DO and temps appear fairly normal for late summer. When the fall turnover occurs the pond should be reoxygenated top to bottom and DO should be 9-10ppm around time ice formation. From your DO profile can I assume that your water clarity was around 3ft?


That sounds like a very good thing for me? I would say 3' at the most. Maybe 2-3'. The water is a "tea" color. Thanks Bill!


Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
W
OP Offline
W
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
Originally Posted By: JKB
Bill, do you have data on ponds around a 10,000 ft elevation? I have been trying to find something, but no luck.


I have searched and searched for that as well but haven't had any luck.


Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,692
J
JKB Offline
Hall of Fame 2015
Lunker
Offline
Hall of Fame 2015
Lunker
J
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,692
Originally Posted By: wbuffetjr
Originally Posted By: JKB
Bill, do you have data on ponds around a 10,000 ft elevation? I have been trying to find something, but no luck.


I have searched and searched for that as well but haven't had any luck.


I know we have to derate the electrical for cooling and compressor output due to thin air, but was curious to see if there were any recommendations on diffuser placement in that specific atmosphere? That's why I asked the question to Bill, just wondering if there was some good info.

Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
W
OP Offline
W
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
Originally Posted By: wbuffetjr
Here are the new DO reading in PPM. I took the readings at the same time as before, about 30 minutes after sun up.

Depth(ft)_______DO(PPM)_____Temp(F)
1________________6.28_______55.6
2________________6.19_______55.5
3________________6.13_______55.5
4________________6.07_______55.5
5________________5.57_______55.4
6________________4.68_______55.3
7________________3.52_______55.0
8________________2.71_______54.9
9________________2.21_______54.8
10_______________1.33_______54.6
11_______________.55________54.4
12________________0_________54.0


Anyone else have any input on these DO levels? To me, it is kind of depressing to have a 20+' deep lake with what appears to be zero O2 after 11'. For a lake with such low O2, it sure seems to be super healthy and grows hogs, what kind of a change would I see with adequate aeration?


Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,411
Likes: 788
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Online Content
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,411
Likes: 788
With those readings, I doubt you will find any trout deeper than 5'. With proper aeration you will see O2 levels close to the same from top to bottom. BUT, if the water temp exceeds 70°F, then the trout will have a hard time surviving.


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
W
OP Offline
W
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
Originally Posted By: esshup
With those readings, I doubt you will find any trout deeper than 5'. With proper aeration you will see O2 levels close to the same from top to bottom. BUT, if the water temp exceeds 70°F, then the trout will have a hard time surviving.


Gotcha, thanks Esshup. I looked back at the readings I took this summer and my surface temp was 61 degrees. I would assume and hope that with proper aeration it wouldn't go over 61 degrees. I guess I should have asked what kind of improvemets in the lake would I see once it was fully aerated? Would that eliminate any chance of a winterkill? Would it improve fish growth? Any ideas on other things it would improve?

Thanks!


Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,692
J
JKB Offline
Hall of Fame 2015
Lunker
Offline
Hall of Fame 2015
Lunker
J
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,692
Any of this DO measured near your windmill aerator?

Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
W
OP Offline
W
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
No. Probably 100 yards away. Only got two diffusers so I didn't want to measure water around them.


Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,692
J
JKB Offline
Hall of Fame 2015
Lunker
Offline
Hall of Fame 2015
Lunker
J
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,692
I would have done that just to get some data. It would be one more thing to work with.

Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
W
OP Offline
W
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
Yeah I didn't think of it. Will get it for sure next time. Should be getting water sample data back this week I think.


Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,692
J
JKB Offline
Hall of Fame 2015
Lunker
Offline
Hall of Fame 2015
Lunker
J
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,692
When are you going up next?

Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
W
OP Offline
W
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
That's the awful part...... next July


By then hopefully we can have a solar rig figured out I can take up there. If not, I am probably gonna put up a 2nd windmill.

Last edited by wbuffetjr; 10/06/15 07:00 AM.

Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
W
OP Offline
W
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
Well got the Koenders back up and running again. Apparently that had a bad batch of them and have had several with the exact same problem. My buddy said the wind was cranking while he was up there and it was making a ton of air so all is good. Got it done just in time as a big storm came in and dumped 10" of snow down lower on the mountain. If there is 10" down there then there is probably 20" at our place.


Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
W
OP Offline
W
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
Here is a pic taken yesterday of my buddy's pond down the mountain from me. He had to chain up to get to this point. Looks like his windmill is working so far. Said he was gonna try to get his snow machine up to our place next week and get me some pics!


Last edited by wbuffetjr; 08/08/17 08:50 AM.

Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,692
J
JKB Offline
Hall of Fame 2015
Lunker
Offline
Hall of Fame 2015
Lunker
J
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 6,692
Hopefully all is going well at your place.

How big is your buddies pond?

Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
W
OP Offline
W
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
it is about 3 acres


Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,411
Likes: 788
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Online Content
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,411
Likes: 788
And we're supposed to be in the low 60's this weekend......

I see that Koenders now has windmill compressors that furnish 4.5 cfm. Do you know if you have the old or new ones? Old ones are 1.5 cfm. I don't know when the new ones came out. Just saw them the other day while looking for repair parts.


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
W
OP Offline
W
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
Seeing as a month ago they just shipped me a new one to replace the defective one and it was a double diaphragm, it better be the 4.5'er!! I will email my contact there and see.


EDIT: Where did you see 4.5 CFM? I'm not seeing it?

EDIT EDIT: Just got word back from Koenders and they said only their electric units will produce that much CFM.

Last edited by wbuffetjr; 12/10/15 10:30 AM.

Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
W
OP Offline
W
Joined: Aug 2014
Posts: 1,381
Likes: 46
Picture was taken yesterday. They made it up on snow machines. Big storm in there all week. Dropped 8" of snow at 6,500' so no telling how much at 10k'. Honestly, I am a little discouraged that there isn't a hole open in the ice. Pretty sure I can see a thin spot, but I sure would like to see 2 holes open! For perspective, the floor of the deck in the far left of the pic is about 4'.





Last edited by wbuffetjr; 08/08/17 08:54 AM.

Keep This Forum Viable, Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Page 7 of 32 1 2 5 6 7 8 9 31 32

Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
Bob Lusk, GaryK, GrizzFan, PhotographerDave
Recent Posts
Alum vs Bentonite/Lathanum for Phosphorus Removal?
by DenaTroyer - 03/28/24 09:38 AM
Brooder Shiners and Fry, What to do??
by Freg - 03/28/24 09:13 AM
Happy Birthday Bob Lusk!!
by esshup - 03/28/24 08:45 AM
Relative weight charts in Excel ? Calculations?
by esshup - 03/28/24 08:36 AM
Dewatering bags seeded to form berms?
by Justin W - 03/28/24 08:19 AM
Reducing fish biomass
by FishinRod - 03/28/24 08:18 AM
New 2 acre pond stocking plan
by esshup - 03/27/24 06:05 PM
1 year after stocking question
by esshup - 03/27/24 06:02 PM
Questions and Feedback on SMB
by Donatello - 03/27/24 03:10 PM
Paper-shell crayfish and Japanese snails
by Bill Cody - 03/27/24 10:18 AM
2024 North Texas Optimal BG food Group Buy
by Dave Davidson1 - 03/27/24 08:15 AM
Freeze Danger? - Electric Diaphragm Pump
by esshup - 03/26/24 09:47 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
by Tbar, December 10
Deer at Theo's 2023
Deer at Theo's 2023
by Theo Gallus, November 13
Minnow identification
Minnow identification
by Mike Troyer, October 6
Sharing the Food
Sharing the Food
by FishinRod, September 9
Nice BGxRES
Nice BGxRES
by Theo Gallus, July 28
Snake Identification
Snake Identification
by Rangersedge, July 12

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5