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My feed dealer that runs 4 feed mills has been told they have either have had their feed dealership agreement revoked or threatened to because they don't buy enough of their product. You have to wonder who's running the ship at Purina Mills and if they just want to run the ship aground.
What a way to run a business!
The person that places my orders said she won't shed a tear as they haven't seen a feed rep from them in years. She's never been impressed with their dealer and customer relations. But then neither have I and a lot of others I talk to.
I needed about 50 lbs. of fry size feed as I'm feeding quite a few more tilapia and bluegill fry this year than I anticipated. Been getting 10 lbs. at a time from Allied Aqua in Missouri but shipping gets to be a deal killer when you get up to 40 or 50 lbs.
I have a source of a different brand but it will take some driving.
Just thought I'd pass this along as there could be another hiccup in the supply chain! Sounds like the management is counting beans and shooting themselves in the foot!
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Seems like nowdays the personal dealings have evaporated form MANY businesses. I love when ya try to get ahold of a company and after 5 minutes of their opportunities to be transferred to another computer that will ultimately let you speak to a person you are told your call is "important" to them and please hold for the next available representative. After anywhere form a minute to 24 or so someone does answer and usually doesn't know their arse form a hole in the ground or if they have to transfer you to someone who does it takes another 1/4 hr to get them and they usually can't speak English.
Ok, that was my rant for the day, I feel better. Now I'm gonna go kill some tree rats.
Do nature a favor, spay/neuter your pets and any weird friends or relatives.
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I love the press one for English, press two for Spansh, then 3, or 4, or on up to 8 or so for the other options! Not!
And with some companies it takes days to get an email response!
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Since the cell phone was updated with the lollipop software (Samsung) I have not had signal at the house. I got Verizon to get me a signal extender that made using the cell phone in the house possible. Well, the extender lasted for 2 weeks then quit working. I spent about a whole day with them on the land line talking to someone at tech, and they decided that a new extender was the answer.
Got it, installed it and it doesn't work either. ANOTHER 1/2 day on the phone and they pushed it over to the Engineering dept. I told them to call the land line.
This weekend I've had 5 calls to the cell phone from Verizon, and when I tried calling the number back from the land line it says that the number is no longer in use.
My only other option is AT&T, and with 5 weeks to go on the orig. Verizon contract, that'd be a $350 hit to get out of the contract.....
Even so I got a trial AT&T phone to check signal. 3 bars until I turned on the road that leads to the house. 2 bars. Pull in the driveway, 2 bars. Still marginal. Get right outside the house, 1 bar. Go inside, 1 bar.
I'm about to give up.
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Trouble is they know we really need these services and there are so few options they really don't give a damn. Dang it Scott, thought I was done ventin.
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I won't even start on the lack of competition of the two major shippers in the country!
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Since the cell phone was updated with the lollipop software (Samsung) I have not had signal at the house. I got Verizon to get me a signal extender that made using the cell phone in the house possible. Well, the extender lasted for 2 weeks then quit working. I spent about a whole day with them on the land line talking to someone at tech, and they decided that a new extender was the answer.
Got it, installed it and it doesn't work either. ANOTHER 1/2 day on the phone and they pushed it over to the Engineering dept. I told them to call the land line.
This weekend I've had 5 calls to the cell phone from Verizon, and when I tried calling the number back from the land line it says that the number is no longer in use.
My only other option is AT&T, and with 5 weeks to go on the orig. Verizon contract, that'd be a $350 hit to get out of the contract.....
Even so I got a trial AT&T phone to check signal. 3 bars until I turned on the road that leads to the house. 2 bars. Pull in the driveway, 2 bars. Still marginal. Get right outside the house, 1 bar. Go inside, 1 bar.
I'm about to give up. The problem is ya live in Redneck country like me! Seriously I feel for ya. I hope you get it resolved without additional expense and more wasted time.
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Well I guess I am getting a 50 lb. bag of Aquamax after all.  Will pick it up from a very generous fish farm over in Ohio and get it at an excellent price.  Steve Heitman of Shelby Fish Farm you da man! 
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Cecil, thought Shelby Fish Farm had free shipping on their products which included food. They ship quick too, was quite pleased with them. When I start feeding more heavily I will probably use them as the source.
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Cecil, thought Shelby Fish Farm had free shipping on their products which included food. They ship quick too, was quite pleased with them. When I start feeding more heavily I will probably use them as the source. Yeah but the price is a lot higher for a fifty pound bag and "free shipping." Try over $100.00. Not Shelby Farms' fault though. Shipping something of that size and weight is not cheap.
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Since the cell phone was updated with the lollipop software (Samsung) I have not had signal at the house. I got Verizon to get me a signal extender that made using the cell phone in the house possible. Well, the extender lasted for 2 weeks then quit working. I spent about a whole day with them on the land line talking to someone at tech, and they decided that a new extender was the answer.
Got it, installed it and it doesn't work either. ANOTHER 1/2 day on the phone and they pushed it over to the Engineering dept. I told them to call the land line.
This weekend I've had 5 calls to the cell phone from Verizon, and when I tried calling the number back from the land line it says that the number is no longer in use.
My only other option is AT&T, and with 5 weeks to go on the orig. Verizon contract, that'd be a $350 hit to get out of the contract.....
Even so I got a trial AT&T phone to check signal. 3 bars until I turned on the road that leads to the house. 2 bars. Pull in the driveway, 2 bars. Still marginal. Get right outside the house, 1 bar. Go inside, 1 bar.
I'm about to give up. Lollipop, really, really, really sucks!!! That got installed on my Nexus 7 and I've wanted to bounce that sucker off a few concrete walls, but have an Otter Box on it, and the dang thing wasn't cheap  Hopefully, they may come out with something new and improved, but don't bet on it Windows 10 was to be the fix-all for all of our Rockwell Software  I'm sorry if you guy's are not familiar with Rockwell or Siemens software/products, but this basically runs the infrastructure of our country and others as well, as well as aircraft. Big problem is they went with Microsoft as an OS quite a while ago, but Microsoft don't give a crap anymore and windows 10 was supposed to be the fig leaf collaboration between the stuff that actually runs the world and the crap that's corrupting your grade school child by teaching them that everything they ever need is available with a monthly subscription on a device. All of our customers run MS OS, so if we change on this, they have to, and it would be a huge expense. All I can say is it sucks at times.
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I'm sorry if you guy's are not familiar with Rockwell or Siemens software/products, but this basically runs the infrastructure of our country and others as well, as well as aircraft. It is the software that currently runs it, that is until a conficker variant crashes it b/c as a country we don't take critical infrastructure seriously
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Yeah but the price is a lot higher for a fifty pound bag and "free shipping." Try over $100.00. Not Shelby Farms' fault though. Shipping something of that size and weight is not cheap. Good to know and makes sense. I have not bought any 50lb bags of AquaMax (or even close to that amount), roughly how much would one expect to pay for a 50lb bag?
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Since the cell phone was updated with the lollipop software (Samsung) I have not had signal at the house. I got Verizon to get me a signal extender that made using the cell phone in the house possible. Well, the extender lasted for 2 weeks then quit working. I spent about a whole day with them on the land line talking to someone at tech, and they decided that a new extender was the answer.
Got it, installed it and it doesn't work either. ANOTHER 1/2 day on the phone and they pushed it over to the Engineering dept. I told them to call the land line.
This weekend I've had 5 calls to the cell phone from Verizon, and when I tried calling the number back from the land line it says that the number is no longer in use.
My only other option is AT&T, and with 5 weeks to go on the orig. Verizon contract, that'd be a $350 hit to get out of the contract.....
Even so I got a trial AT&T phone to check signal. 3 bars until I turned on the road that leads to the house. 2 bars. Pull in the driveway, 2 bars. Still marginal. Get right outside the house, 1 bar. Go inside, 1 bar.
I'm about to give up. Lollipop, really, really, really sucks!!! That got installed on my Nexus 7 and I've wanted to bounce that sucker off a few concrete walls, but have an Otter Box on it, and the dang thing wasn't cheap Hopefully, they may come out with something new and improved, but don't bet on it Windows 10 was to be the fix-all for all of our Rockwell Software I'm sorry if you guy's are not familiar with Rockwell or Siemens software/products, but this basically runs the infrastructure of our country and others as well, as well as aircraft. Big problem is they went with Microsoft as an OS quite a while ago, but Microsoft don't give a crap anymore and windows 10 was supposed to be the fig leaf collaboration between the stuff that actually runs the world and the crap that's corrupting your grade school child by teaching them that everything they ever need is available with a monthly subscription on a device. All of our customers run MS OS, so if we change on this, they have to, and it would be a huge expense. All I can say is it sucks at times. I have not downloaded Windows 10, and have no intention to for a while either. As for Google's Lollipop, to say it sux $#!&, would be a compliment. I use an LG G3 and it auto loaded...HATED it! 2 days later, I broke the LCD and had to get another phone right away since I was on a delivery run, and locations were in my now unreadable phone. Loaded the info on the new phone and blocked the Lollipop update. Now, all I need to do is wait till it tries to install and force the app to stop....a small PITA, but worth it to avoid Lollipoop! I put on a new LCD and glass myself on the original phone...only $65 for new parts. Scott, the early termination with 5 weeks left would be about $110-$120..it's prorated at $10/month after 3 months, and back-dated. I hate I know that, but after going 15 years without damaging a phone, I went through 7 in a few months. Verizon worker told me to get new contracts, switch my phone number, and then terminate the old contract. At first, I thought paying $350 was insane, till he said, Okay, full price on my phone is $899....
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Cecil, thought Shelby Fish Farm had free shipping on their products which included food. They ship quick too, was quite pleased with them. When I start feeding more heavily I will probably use them as the source. I take Steve at Shelby Fish Farm a lot of fish...he's a good guy!
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Good to know and makes sense. I have not bought any 50lb bags of AquaMax (or even close to that amount), roughly how much would one expect to pay for a 50lb bag? Seem to run $40-48 around here. ..and GFC 25-28.
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Yeah but the price is a lot higher for a fifty pound bag and "free shipping." Try over $100.00. Not Shelby Farms' fault though. Shipping something of that size and weight is not cheap. Good to know and makes sense. I have not bought any 50lb bags of AquaMax (or even close to that amount), roughly how much would one expect to pay for a 50lb bag? The last time I bought the smaller starter feeds, that have protein content in the 50 percent range, the retail price was in the 50 some dollar range for a 50 pound bag. That vs. say the grower sizes like 500 and 600 that ran in the low to mid 30 dollar range.
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Cecil, thought Shelby Fish Farm had free shipping on their products which included food. They ship quick too, was quite pleased with them. When I start feeding more heavily I will probably use them as the source. I take Steve at Shelby Fish Farm a lot of fish...he's a good guy! Yes have had nothing but good experiences talking to Steve on the phone and ordering smaller quantities of feed that was shipped. Was going to buy some bluegills from him one year to bolster my numbers after a poor hatch, but that was the year of the winter from hell when a lot of northern fish farms lost bluegills over the winter regardess of winter aeration. He got hit hard that winter.
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I bought 2 50 pound bags of AMAX 500 recently. Price with tax was $85.00
I also went by TSC the other day and bought a 25 pound bag of Sportsmans Choice for about $15.00. It is 36% protein but all grain based.
Actually, I'm not sure what makes up the protein on any of them.
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Microsoft OS doesn't run the telephony infrastructure, no wonder it works so well. We invented our own OS long ago and still run on variants of it.
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Microsoft OS doesn't run the telephony infrastructure, no wonder it works so well. We invented our own OS long ago and still run on variants of it. PLC based systems have their own OS as well and are rock solid. It's only the programming software that runs on windows which is the source of everyone's misery.
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Cecil - Your fish food from Shelby Fish Farm is probably going to be Zeigler brand - 40# bags. Several growers in the area bought Zeigler food when Purina was difficult to locate. They like the Zeigler feed and are talking about switching from Purina to Zeigler.
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On my AM 500 grain was on the ingredient list way before fish meal. Just sayin.....
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On my AM 500 grain was on the ingredient list way before fish meal. Just sayin..... No surprise there.
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Cecil - Your fish food from Shelby Fish Farm is probably going to be Zeigler brand - 40# bags. Several growers in the area bought Zeigler food when Purina was difficult to locate. They like the Zeigler feed and are talking about switching from Purina to Zeigler. That's even better!
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