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Box trapped a couple dozen of these last night. Please help to identify. Thanks
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Emerald shiner is my guess.
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I think that is a golden shiner. Emeralds are more narrow bodied and do not have the de-curved lateral line.
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Another vote here for GSH.
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GSH was my second guess.
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Thanks fellas! And once again...I never stocked GSH's. Pulling traps from my ponds and the surrounding areas is always a new experience.
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It is indeed a shiner. The kind that will grow to a pound or better.
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It is indeed a shiner. The kind that will grow to a pound or better. Wow that's a big shiner. Never seen one that big!
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It is indeed a shiner. The kind that will grow to a pound or better. Wow that's a big shiner. Never seen one that big! I'll see if I can get some photos for you. A friend down the street has a pond and made the mistake of putting that particular shiner in his pond. He put about 100 of them in and they reproduced like crazy. Some of them are 12 inches long.
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I want to see those pics too!!! Man if I can grow 1lb GSH, I should be able to grow 4lb sac-a-lait (That's French for crappie, right? My buddies in south LA say that)
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I want to see those pics too!!! Man if I can grow 1lb GSH, I should be able to grow 4lb sac-a-lait (That's French for crappie, right? My buddies in south LA say that) Golden Shiners (Notemigonus crysoleucas) Golden shiners feed on small aquatic organisms and provide an additional forage species for largemouth bass. They are known to eat the eggs of other species. This provides a management concern. However, this can help to keep the bass population from becoming over abundant. They routinely reach sizes up to 10 inches in length providing a larger prey item than threadfin shad. Source: http://lakework.com/fish-stocking-2/ Some of the ones in my friends pond are larger than this
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I doubt even a 12" GSH would weigh 1 pound. Even a egg laden female would struggle to go 10 ounces.
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According to the length - weight tables, length of the standard weight one pound GSH is 12.4". I have never seen a 12" GSH. Is there proof? Pflieger (fish of MO) says the maximum length is 8". Troutman (Fish of OH) says maximum is 10.5" and largest Canadian GSH was 9.2" (Scott&Crossman). Ross (Fishes of Mississipi) says maximum length is 14.5" (Fish of St.Johns Rv System FL, PhD thesis - McLane1955).
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I did some digging thru the literature. Found academic measured GSH in the 8-9" range. Fishbase.org also cites a max 36.7cm (14.4") GSH from the St John's River in FL. The WR equation I have for them says a 12" shiner would be 0.9 lb and a 9" would be 0.35 lb. Per the eqn, a 14.4" would be 1.6 lb
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I can say the largest GSH I have ever seen have come from the St John's River in FL. It's got a lot of large everything in it, it seems...
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