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Thanks to all US Veterans out there that give us the freedoms we have!


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Thank you all for your service. It is very much appreciated!

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Originally Posted By: cecil Baird


My dad was in basic in Ft. Knox the same year you were.


Originally Posted By: John Monroe
I can't get this quote thing right. Cecil a lot of us were in the armed services at that time period as it was required everyone had to serve. Most of my classmate buddies went into the Navy. Two went to the air force, one flying refueling jet tankers until he retired, the other the electronics man in a two-man jet. One joined the National Guard before he was 18 and served at home. I was the only one that went to the army. The older brother of the one that flew the jet tanker was shot down in Vietnam and his jet was found in the jungle, and his remains returned some thirty years later to our small town here in Indiana. At the end of his services in the cemetery and just as taps were being played, 5 jets flew over and shot straight up in the air. It was beautiful and timing was perfect. My tombstone is only 50 feet from his.


So true John so true. So tragic to hear of your classmate that was shot down. I get angry when i think of the sam sites in Hanoi we weren't allowed to destroy. A lot of choopers were shot down in Vietnam too. I think i heard something like 800?

My dad says a lot of the guys in his basic went to Korea and he never saw them again. I think my dad started out in an engineer battalion. He then went to airborne triaining and ended up in Special Forces. Eventually he served in Vietnam and Cambodia. Retired as a Msgt.

I'm going to try and dig up a photo of him standing near a couple of jounalists. I said, "Dad do you know who that is?" he didn't much care as he wasn't fond of jounalists as he indicated they would comoromise a mission in a heartbeat if it meant a story. Anyway i told him it was Morlely safer (sp?) of 60 minutes.

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I was talking to my son one day about 15 years ago when he was in the 8th grade:

Son: "I'm meeting some friends after school."
Me: "Anybody I know?"
Son: mentioned a few names
Me "is *** **** from Viet Nam"
Son "Yes"
Me "Did you tell her I was in Viet Nam?"
Son "No"
Me: "Did you think that it might effect your friendship?"
Yes "uh, uh, yes"

My son is a terrific young man and ment no harm, he just gave me an honest answer.
But it broke my heart...


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Originally Posted By: rmedgar
I was talking to my son one day about 15 years ago when he was in the 8th grade:

Son: "I'm meeting some friends after school."
Me: "Anybody I know?"
Son: mentioned a few names
Me "is *** **** from Viet Nam"
Son "Yes"
Me "Did you tell her I was in Viet Nam?"
Son "No"
Me: "Did you think that it might effect your friendship?"
Yes "uh, uh, yes"

My son is a terrific young man and ment no harm, he just gave me an honest answer.
But it broke my heart...


My uncle who was in Vietnam has similar attitude but he tries his best to manage it. My grandpa who was in Korea shared thoughts along those lines too.

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Sincere thanks to all Veterans today and every day. I enjoy when you collectively relive your service through stories.

Couple thoughts:

1. Woe to whomever decided to scrap with John Monroe after a few beers back in the day - looks like he was ready to roll.

2. I hope Dave can find some of his old photos...I understand he played a prominent role in the battle of Bull Run.


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Sorry, I think that I was still in Basic Training during that scrap.


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My only memorable experience was a desert survival "exercise". The USAF dropped off about 8 of us in the desert somewhere around Fort Huachuca AZ. We had knives, tent shelters, shovels, plastic for solar stills, a radio, and some meds. We made it for 10 days; or at least 6 of us did. The others were evaced out. The summertime temps was in the 130's. We ate some interesting things that we foraged. We all lost a little bit of weight but had been pretty carefully selected. I started out at 135 pounds and only lost about 5 pounds. We kept wondering why we were doing it.

The 6 day war between Israel and neighbors started about 60 days later. We were guinea pigs.

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I remember the 6 day war Dave. We were living in Germany and I was with my dad fishing a Bavarian trout stream. A wife of another soldier friend came looking for us and my dad's unit was put on full alert.

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Originally Posted By: rmedgar
I was talking to my son one day about 15 years ago when he was in the 8th grade:

Son: "I'm meeting some friends after school."
Me: "Anybody I know?"
Son: mentioned a few names
Me "is *** **** from Viet Nam"
Son "Yes"
Me "Did you tell her I was in Viet Nam?"
Son "No"
Me: "Did you think that it might effect your friendship?"
Yes "uh, uh, yes"

My son is a terrific young man and ment no harm, he just gave me an honest answer.
But it broke my heart...


Just re-read this thread.. rmedgar. Fix that broken heart NOW!!! You have nothing to be ashamed of. We're proud of you and your son should be also.




Totally missed the part when this happened 15 yrs ago. I erased a lot.

By the way rmedgar, THANKS!!!

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