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This Spring/Summer we've had unusual clarity [96"+] and the FA, Horned and American pondweed has responded in kind with a mega boom. I'm raking out dead, floating FA every time out at the pond and collecting it in a pile. When dried, I think it will make a great potting soil additive. As Al says, though, it shrinks up to nearly nothing when fully dried - but due to the sheer volume I'd say I have nearly 1 cyd by now - and that's just the FA!


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Cecil, if I remember I'll bring the sharpening implement tomorrow.


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Originally Posted By: teehjaeh57
This Spring/Summer we've had unusual clarity [96"+] and the FA, Horned and American pondweed has responded in kind with a mega boom. I'm raking out dead, floating FA every time out at the pond and collecting it in a pile. When dried, I think it will make a great potting soil additive. As Al says, though, it shrinks up to nearly nothing when fully dried - but due to the sheer volume I'd say I have nearly 1 cyd by now - and that's just the FA!


It prolly will make a good soil additive only thing I noticed on mine is it stinks to high heaven..


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It could always be worse...

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/...lution-pictures

Check out the gallery at the top.

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Originally Posted By: esshup
Cecil, if I remember I'll bring the sharpening implement tomorrow.


I have one. It doesn't work well.


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






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Originally Posted By: Bocomo
It could always be worse...

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/...lution-pictures

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China's as irresponsible as we were 100 years ago.


If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.






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I agree Cecil, there was a segment on the world news just tonight about how bad the air pollution is in China.


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I'm tooting my own product's horn, but the Jenson Lake MowerTM is
- boat-mounted,
- and the blades are self-sharpening.
We have many users that are your age -- one told us that he used a rake like yours one summer until he was tired of the upper-body workout. Then he ended up paying his daughter and her boyfriend through the rest of the summer to do it. When he tallied it all up, he had paid out about what a Jenson Lake MowerTM would have cost him. So the next summer he called us....

If this is something you might want to consider, call us or see lakemower.com .

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Originally Posted By: HappyLakeMower
I'm tooting my own product's horn, but the Jenson Lake MowerTM is
- boat-mounted,
- and the blades are self-sharpening.
We have many users that are your age -- one told us that he used a rake like yours one summer until he was tired of the upper-body workout. Then he ended up paying his daughter and her boyfriend through the rest of the summer to do it. When he tallied it all up, he had paid out about what a Jenson Lake MowerTM would have cost him. So the next summer he called us....

If this is something you might want to consider, call us or see lakemower.com .


I'd love to have one. Just can't afford it. frown

BTW the Sago and Small Pondweed is dying down now.

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As the owner I might could work something out for you. Give us a a call and ask for Annamarie.

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Originally Posted By: Cecil Baird1
I'd love to have one. Just can't afford it. frown
Yuengling had one for sale awhile back.

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Yesterday I had 4 Herons circling around my pond and I have never seen that before. The day before I was setting at the pond and a heron came down and landed in my thick spatterdock in 7 foot of water. I think he thought it was shallow, and he sank up to his nick. He tried three times to get out but the foot high spatterdock and water was interfering with his wing flapping. He was able to fly out on the 4 attempts. By the way the spatterdock seems to be self destructing with the leaves turning brown and thinning out, much like you see in late fall and finally finished off by frost. Since I have let my pond go completely natural I have minnows, bluegill, tadpoles and frogs thick in my pond offering up lots of food for predators. Cattails of the thin and wide leaf variety have almost circled my pond with a width of 30 feet in some places and I have never see herons land in them. I only spray in front of my deck so as to have a clear view of all the wild life activity this type of pond has to offer. The birding is great.


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Originally Posted By: HappyLakeMower
As the owner I might could work something out for you. Give us a a call and ask for Annamarie.


Thanks for the offer.

Don't get me wrong. I don't believe your product is overpriced as it appears to be high quality and long lasting. My problem is other priorities for the next year or so. I need to get a fish barn up first.

I did have the idea of several pond owners pooling their funds and buying one for each to use when it's needed, but didn't get many takers. I think a pond/lake manager could quickly pay for it.


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Originally Posted By: John Monroe
Yesterday I had 4 Herons circling around my pond and I have never seen that before. The day before I was setting at the pond and a heron came down and landed in my thick spatterdock in 7 foot of water. I think he thought it was shallow, and he sank up to his nick. He tried three times to get out but the foot high spatterdock and water was interfering with his wing flapping. He was able to fly out on the 4 attempts. By the way the spatterdock seems to be self destructing with the leaves turning brown and thinning out, much like you see in late fall and finally finished off by frost. Since I have let my pond go completely natural I have minnows, bluegill, tadpoles and frogs thick in my pond offering up lots of food for predators. Cattails of the thin and wide leaf variety have almost circled my pond with a width of 30 feet in some places and I have never see herons land in them. I only spray in front of my deck so as to have a clear view of all the wild life activity this type of pond has to offer. The birding is great.


John,

Sounds like you have the right idea with the natural approach if that works for you.


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Cecil I have evolved, or degraded, from what one usually thinks of what a pond should be. I sometimes read a book at the pond only to put it aside because the pond is more exciting. Just the other day I was watching a flying insect pestering a large bullfrog, flying and landing all over it's face including its eyes. I expected it to be a meal at any time, but after a few minutes the frog swatted the bug with it's front foot then dove under water. In the past I have only seen one Kingfisher at a time diving from a tree into the pond but a few days ago I watched two perform acrobatics all over the pond, mating perhaps. I have watched only the female Red Wing Blackbirds land on the spatterdock and gather bugs and eat the tiny seeds from cattail fuzz. It's a mystery why the males don't do this. I am constantly surprised at what the pond shows me. Great entertainment.


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John - Sounds like we have similar interests in terms of ponds that function primarily as wildlife habitat. However, I still am interested in nudging the pond in the direction I desire by stocking fish that I want and planting the plants that I want, and removing invasives. I love to see others, especially kids, catch fish in our ponds, but love the ducks, herons, and kingfishers. We have seven half grown wood ducks that are being raised in one of our shallow duck ponds which have thick reed beds for cover. I do remove the occasional muskrat though. A nudge here and there...

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The idea of a pond that receives minimal hands-on does have a relaxed, restful, and tranquil ring about it. But I can't see myself being able to simply watch mother nature do her thing, as her ideas don't often integrate themselves into my plans very well.

I did smile at the notion of giving a "nudge" here and there...that does sound rather gentle and peaceful, especially when my idea of management involves throwing the aquatic version of a headlock around our ponds, wrestling them down, and doing my best to pin their shoulders to the mat in a decisive victory.

I'm very aware that ultimately, mother nature will get her way. But I haven't reached the point where I'm willing to admit it. I'm still going to shoulder that brushcutter, strap on the backpack sprayer, trench 370' to run power so all of our ponds can be aerated, (yesterday's project), continually moniter fish population dynamics, and make runs to the local feed store for AQ500.

John and RAH, your places both sound awesome. I'd like to see some photos.....


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A pond with minimal hands on effort is very similar to a vegetable garden that receives little hands-on. Both progress in parallel. think about it.


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Originally Posted By: Bill Cody
A pond with minimal hands on effort is very similar to a vegetable garden that receives little hands-on. Both progress in parallel. think about it.


Bill, that's the vision I had in my mind also, which is why I'll continue to wrestle with ours. Perhaps the day will come when I'm content to let things progress as they may, but I'm not ready for that at this time.


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I am a 30-year recovering naturalaholic, but I just have different objectives for my vegetable patch and my pond. I use high-intensity plasticulture, with raised beds and drip irrigation to maximize yield in my vege patch. I am after entertainment in my pond, and I enjoy directing the biological processes on my place to maximize wildlife which I enjoy watching. With over 100 acres of habitat and a full time off-farm job, that is a pragmatic approach for me. I am not a purist and mix exotic (but non-invasive) species with natives.

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I have gone from a heavy hands on, approach, to a very slight hands on approach, planting some plants of interest and minimal spraying. This spring I modified my boat to hold my 15 gal. 12 vote sprayer to take on the cattails but there is so much that goes on in the cattails that I couldn't bring myself to spray them. I used to kill a lot of wildlife when young and now I want to help them live.


All set to spray but couldn't do it.


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Excellent post John. Shows a nice overview of other benefits to a pond.

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Outstanding post John. I too don't want to kill anything anymore so either use nonlethal means to send the herons on their way or relocate other animals. Unfortunately since my ponds add a few thousand to my income I have to be very hands on. If my ponds were strictly recreational i wouldn't be concerned much at all.

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Superb photos!!!!


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John,
I have those bugs in my pond as well and I also don't know what they are. I do know that the BG swim right under them and don't eat them; even the small BG.


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