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Snails be gone? #326776 03/22/13 05:43 PM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana Cecil Baird1 OP Hall of Fame Lunker
OP Cecil Baird1 Hall of Fame Lunker Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana	As I drain my biggest pond down it now has the top exposed 3 + feet high and dry and the exposed bottom has frozen solid for several days now. Anybody think I could be lucky enough to kill at least most of the snails that are on the bottom and embedded in the pond bottom? From what I've read the snails (primarily Ramshorn Snails) hold in the top few feet of the pond edges. That is unless they gradually move deeper as the water recedes. I've seen them do this but I'm not so sure they are as motile in really cold water which I have now. It would be nice to knock them back a little and along with my efforts to keep the herons out with staked lines see a decrease in yellow grubs. Thoughts? Hey Scott do you know if rotenone will have any effect on them if they concentrate in the puddles you'll treat for me? BTW I could probably grow some killer size redears with the thousands of snails I have but I'm concerned they could hybridize with my bluegills and I only sell pure bluegills. Last edited by Cecil Baird1; 03/22/13 05:48 PM. If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.

Re: Snails be gone? Cecil Baird1 #326777 03/22/13 05:54 PM
Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 28,604 Likes: 859 Grovertown, Indiana esshup Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker
esshup Moderator Ambassador Field Correspondent Lunker Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 28,604 Likes: 859 Grovertown, Indiana	I don't know Cecil. I'll look into it. If you only stock Male BG, then you could only stock Male RES and have some pretty large RES! Now, do Female or Male RES grow bigger? www.hoosierpondpros.com http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4 3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).

Re: Snails be gone? Cecil Baird1 #326784 03/22/13 06:20 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,099 Likes: 23 St Louis, MO area R Rainman Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker
Rainman Ambassador Field Correspondent Hall of Fame Lunker R Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 7,099 Likes: 23 St Louis, MO area	Nuke it with a few hundred pounds of Hydrated Lime...it would become inert again, Ph wise, quickly, and add calcium... I guess I just presumed you H-limed as standard BMP when draining... Last edited by Rainman; 03/22/13 06:22 PM.

Re: Snails be gone? Cecil Baird1 #326790 03/22/13 07:32 PM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana Cecil Baird1 OP Hall of Fame Lunker
OP Cecil Baird1 Hall of Fame Lunker Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana	Rex, I do in the smaller ponds but the snails still come back. I've read they have the ability to burrow in the mud and escape the lime. This pond is six times the size of the small ponds so it will be a little more involved to lime the entire thing. No shortage of calcium in the water though. The water is almost hard enough to walk on! If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.

Re: Snails be gone? Cecil Baird1 #327327 03/25/13 04:56 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 191 Dayton, Ohio M Mark B Lunker
Mark B Lunker M Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 191 Dayton, Ohio	Just curious if you introduced the snails or they were added through mother nature?? Id love to add some sort of new critter to make my panfish, (YP, BC RES and BG) bigger. Sorry not on topic but just curious. Salmonid Have fish..Will Travel Mark Blauvelt - Dayton Ohio ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ .75 acre pond, HSB,YP,CC,BC,BCF,BG,HBG,RES

Re: Snails be gone? Cecil Baird1 #327345 03/25/13 06:33 PM
Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana Cecil Baird1 OP Hall of Fame Lunker
OP Cecil Baird1 Hall of Fame Lunker Joined: Aug 2002 Posts: 20,043 Likes: 1 Northeastern Indiana	Not a problem Mark. I really don't know where they came from but my WAG is via birds or water that some fish were brought in with. However I'm not an expert on snails but Bill Cody has told me the predominant type I have (Ramshorn Snails) are not the most desirable as they have a very hard shell. Shellcrakers (redear) wouldn't have a problem with them but some other species might. I wouldn't be surprised though if yellow perch eat them and do know trout do. Bill? If pigs could fly bacon would be harder to come by and there would be a lot of damaged trees.

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