Pond Boss Magazine
https://www.pondboss.com/images/userfiles/image/20130301193901_6_150by50orangewhyshouldsubscribejpeg.jpg
Advertisment
Newest Members
Kendal, BoomerTC35D, cjschuhmann, Teroni, EGS
18,531 Registered Users
Forum Statistics
Forums36
Topics41,015
Posts558,538
Members18,532
Most Online3,612
Jan 10th, 2023
Top Posters
esshup 28,606
ewest 21,513
Cecil Baird1 20,043
Bill Cody 15,160
Who's Online Now
1 members (Sunil), 553 guests, and 192 robots.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 53
OP Offline
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 53
hello all-
Been awhile since I updated about my pond, so here goes-

I have 3/4 acre pond, sloping 3:1 down to about 15 feet max depth, stocked with rainbow trout pond in colorado. Thanks to all the great info here all is going well. Fish are jumping, water is oxygenated, and the pond is holding water.

The pond is coming into its second season and I wanted to be proactive about establishing a healthy aquatic plant community. From my native stream source, I have had a bit of cattail and eurasian watermilfoil try to establish. I have hand weeded this stuff out, but I realize over time this stuff is gonna get more aggressive than my weeding.

I am thinking that planting specific desirables now, will help to keep these weeds in check. Here are the plants I am planning on planting this spring when the water warms up-

hardy hybrid water lilies (lots of these)
lizards tail
pickerel rush
aquatic mint
sweet flag and blue flag iris

These were selected based on reccomendations on the forum here, and availability from a local aquatic plant nursery.

Are these good ideas? Are there better plants, particularly that you could reccomend a source for? I want to maintain a good habitat for the RBT, create beautiful scenery, and minimize my battle with noxious weeds.

Thanks to all for sharing your hard earned wisdom on all things pond.

Adam

Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,160
Likes: 494
B
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
B
Joined: Apr 2002
Posts: 15,160
Likes: 494
All the listed plants will compete against cattails and other shoreline plants, but will provide little competition to milfoil.


aka Pond Doctor & Dr. Perca Read Pond Boss Magazine -
America's Journal of Pond Management
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,606
Likes: 861
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,606
Likes: 861
If you don't have water flowing thru your pond, you can use a low concentration of Fluridone to kill the EWM. The toxity dosage is lower than what is lethal to the other plants, so no worries there. The only problem is that a certain ppb needs to be kept for at least 30 days, 45 days is even better.

That's impossible to do with a pond where water flows in and out unless you can cut off the flow for that length of time. EWM grows very fast, and out competes any native plant. That's why it's considered an invasive species.

Use the glove of death on the cattails if they get over 24" tall. If less than that, and you stay on top of them, you can hand pull the ones that show up.


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,930
Likes: 2
R
RER Offline
Offline
R
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 1,930
Likes: 2
Grass carp eat milfoil dont they?

Last edited by BobbyRice; 03/20/13 07:19 AM.

Goofing off is a slang term for engaging in recreation or an idle pastime while obligations of work or society are neglected........... Wikipedia
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,365
B
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
B
Joined: Jun 2005
Posts: 2,365
It's not likely that desirable plants can outcompete undesirable plants. They tend to grow more slowly and sparsely, that's why they are desirable.

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,730
Likes: 289
R
RAH Offline
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
R
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 5,730
Likes: 289
Established desirable plants can help keep invasives from getting started. Bureed may be another plant to consider.

Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 888
H
Lunker
Offline
Lunker
H
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 888
Originally Posted By: BobbyRice
Grass carp each milfoil dont they?


And if grass carp don't eat the milfoil, what will... tilapia,koi,carp...etc?

Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 53
OP Offline
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 53
thanks for the suggestions guys

I thought that grass carp would cause turbidity issues for the RBT, which is the primary purpose of the pond? Would just one or two carp keep the milfoil in check without affecting the water clarity too much?

Fluridone would definately be a possibility in mid-summer when I do not necessarily flow-through water. Seems that would be a good time of year to knock back the milfoil as well. Yes?

It sounds like the shoreline plants I was thinking of will at least help to minimize the problems with cattails, which are rampant in my area.

keep the good ideas coming! thanks.

Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,606
Likes: 861
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Offline
Moderator
Ambassador
Field Correspondent
Lunker
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 28,606
Likes: 861
That'd be a good time to treat. As soon as the water stops flowing in hit it.


www.hoosierpondpros.com


http://www.pondboss.com/subscribe.asp?c=4
3/4 to 1 1/4 ac pond LMB, SMB, PS, BG, RES, CC, YP, Bardello BG, (RBT & Blue Tilapia - seasonal).
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 149
Offline
Joined: Apr 2012
Posts: 149
Weed razor works good on young cattails too. I would like to ask on this too. My pond looks like a moon surface. Is there any good vegitation to plant out in like 10' of water?

Last edited by Frozengator; 03/19/13 11:50 PM.
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,324
Likes: 306
Moderator
Offline
Moderator
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 5,324
Likes: 306
adam, does your water level fluctuate much, or does it stay pretty constant?


AL

Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,105
J
Member
Offline
Member
J
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,105
My grass carp cleaned out millfoil big time. 18 per acre. Too many. As far as I know they didn't make the water turbid like the KOI and Isreali.


Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 53
OP Offline
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 53
The pond level only fluctuates briefly when I pull water out for irrigation. The full pool level then gets restored within a few days.

So pretty constant level, though with my agri-drain, I do have the ability to lower the water level if needed.

Thanks again fellas


Link Copied to Clipboard
Today's Birthdays
Blazzzy, jkrueger
Recent Posts
Trapping the Crays
by FishinRod - 05/18/24 01:55 PM
Spotfin Shiners - Habitat, Cover and Structure
by canyoncreek - 05/17/24 11:57 AM
recommendations for northern YP/SMB/BT pond
by H20fwler - 05/17/24 10:51 AM
Bird Deter for patio furniture....
by Energymble - 05/17/24 04:46 AM
BG sex?
by Bill Cody - 05/16/24 08:50 PM
Spawn Identification
by Fishingadventure - 05/16/24 05:03 PM
Pest Control around Pond
by Bennettrand - 05/16/24 02:56 PM
Happy Birthday Bob-O
by Pat Williamson - 05/16/24 07:53 AM
Optimal vs. Purina
by gehajake - 05/16/24 07:26 AM
Repairing Dam with Culvert?
by jludwig - 05/15/24 12:21 PM
Building a sprayer for 10 acre farm pond
by Black Creek WW - 05/15/24 08:54 AM
Tilapia with Winterkill
by Fishingadventure - 05/14/24 06:34 PM
Newly Uploaded Images
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
Eagles Over The Pond Yesterday
by Tbar, December 10
Deer at Theo's 2023
Deer at Theo's 2023
by Theo Gallus, November 13
Minnow identification
Minnow identification
by Mike Troyer, October 6
Sharing the Food
Sharing the Food
by FishinRod, September 9
Nice BGxRES
Nice BGxRES
by Theo Gallus, July 28
Snake Identification
Snake Identification
by Rangersedge, July 12

� 2014 POND BOSS INC. all rights reserved USA and Worldwide

Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5