Pond Boss Forums MANAGING AN EXISTING POND Feeding Aquamax differences?

I always thought it was the same formula, just run through a different sized extruder.

I'll bet the difference has something to do with the date. Anybody have feed with a date of Aug. 4th, or later?

Where's the date printed?

BTW not sure it's important but Purina Mills farms out some of it's feed production. I was told by a distributor in Ohio some of the starter feeds are farmed out. I think he said Zeiglers.

Right below the stitching, on the bottom of the bag.

Ok I'll check tonight.. You think it's got anything todo with 500 vs 600

Not sure but would not think so.

SP Very good questions ! I would like to know as well. Also looks like the fish oil (catfish oil) has moved up in the list and been specified as to source.

I have queried Purina, but have not heard back....and from what I've read on here, there's a good chance I won't.

I can accept a change in some aspect of the feed I'm using, but when the feed is larger, smells different, hydrates differently, has far more "dust" in the bag than usual, AND carries a tag with additional changes noted on it, I tend to think there is in fact, something different going on.

Greg Grimes mentioned splitting hairs in another, similar thread, and while I agree that it may happen here from time to time, I truly believe that there IS a change in my new feed.

At this point, my primary concern is the source of the protein used in the feed....has it changed any at all??

Have asked that it be checked on and will report any news.

SP note my comment to Greg on that other thread.

SP my guess is the protein source is still the same mostely fish meal as adding a little more corn (enough to move it up the list) would not result in the increased protein amount ( up to 41.3 from 41%). Note the lipids (fat) went down which I suspect is from the increased corn and less animal protien (beef , chicken , blood) and or soy. There is evidence that too high of lipids long term is not good for several gamefish species. A lot of guessing on my part here until we get the facts.

"Just the facts mam just the facts."

I'm Joe Friday and this is my Partner Bill Gannon.

will purina be at the PB conference?

Yikes, I just bought 2 bags of AQ 500 for $80.25 with tax, and even that was hard to find, having to drive 25 miles to get it! Would have gotten 3 but they only got 4 in today and 2 were already spoken for.

Phoned Purina plant (Land O' Lakes) here in Lincoln and was told they only sell to dealers and even then orders are two weeks out as it's not manufactured here.

The only thing found locally is Sportsman's Choice Trophy Fish Feed, 25 lb bag for $12.99 at Tractor Supply. I'm having 100 6-8" HSB delivered and don't want to feed them chicken feathers (as I've heard some have).

Reading through this full post I can only agree on the availability and pricing fluctuation regarding Purina and Aquamax (customer service doesn't sound too good either).

Sorry to whine about driving 25 miles as I've seen many on PB that would probably love to drive only 25 miles to get it.

A quality alternative would be nice, or better availability from the local Purina feed dealers!

Silver Cup is great but is only sold by the pallet.

Unless you find someone that wants to be dealer or can combine orders. At least that is what they do up here, but to far from me to make it worthwhile. My nearest one is 2 hours away.

Some aquaculturists here tried to get Silver Cup to open a plant as Purina Mills wasn't very accommodating but they declined.

Cecil, what's Dr. Miller feeding?

I was trying to arrange a pick up of silver cup but I hear UTah is not a good state to get semi's loaded out of.. My father in law owns a trucking biz and he told me Utah just ain't good but all southern states are easy pickins so that's why I'm leaning towards Cargill..

Last I heard it was a special formulation of Zeiglers.

I received an email today from a Beverly Fischer at Purina. She informed me that the 5D05 is made in Richmond, IN, as well as Macon MS. From the information I provided to her, she believes my bag came from MS. She told me she was contacting their nutritionist, and would let me know what she found out. She apologized for taking so long to get back to me.

I would like to publicly thank Ms. Fischer for taking the time to respond, I greatly appreciate her efforts to assist me.

SP did she reply to an email you sent or just send you an email? Bob shook the tree and I want to know if this is a result of his action or a prior email you sent.

Eric, it was a reply to an email that I sent to her.

Scratch that... I sent an email to Purina itself, NOT her in particular... My bad.

I've been watching this post for some time with great interest. I too have noticed my AM 500 is different, especially when hydrated, it seems to grow to a larger size than in the past. I didn't review the tags on my AM, so I don't know if the formula was tinkered with, but something is definitely different with my 500 at least. I have no clue if the differences are positive, negative, or benign - just saying I too notice a difference in the physical characteristics of my most recent 500 pellets.

It does have one redeeming feature.... I can throw it a lot farther!

I just bought two bags of Aquamax 500 that I will be getting today or tomorrow, that the dealer just received. If you all would like I would be happy to post photos of the nutrient labels or whatever you would like to know about them.

I just had 100 HSB delivered yesterday in my newly restored BOW :), (along with 100 LMB), so the feeding is new to me but for all of the help I've gotten from the great people on PB, I want to do whatever I can to help.