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Kenny...When Rex treated my turbidity we used alum/hy lime and cutrine for the bloom. I wasn't aware you were facing a persistent algae bloom due to Summer nutrient influx issues - it's cheap, might want to think about some algaecide, too?
Many men go fishing all of their lives without knowing that it is not fish they are after. ~ Henry David Thoreau
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Snipe, then the results from cutrine plus liquid to nuke the pond, followed by alum/hydrated lime a couple weeks later that will bind most phosphorus currently in the water, will be dramatic
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OK, I have about 3 ac ft volume.. 2 gal cutrine plus sprayed on, wait 2 weeks and do Alum/hyd lime treatment.. Last year at ice out water was pretty clear, this year I've had green water all through winter in and out of ice conditions. Cutrine says above 60 degs, do you guys feel that's correct? I was planning 500lb Alum, 200 Hyd lime as soon as ice was off but if you think I should do that differently, I'm listening.
Edit: actual volume at ice out will be around 2.5 ac ft at the low point.
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I wonder if alum would work if you spread it evenly on top of the ice, and just waited for the melt?
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I don't think so.. It only works dissolved in a slurry if I understand correctly.
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I defer to Rex here...if you’re binding/dropping the phosphorous with alum maybe algaecide treatment would be superfluous?
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The less algae (phytoplankton) in the water, the more P will be suspended in the water for the alum to work on (less tied up in the algae). Lets see what Rex says, I'm more inclined to use 300#/150# per Ac/Ft water.....
Depending on the weather trend (is a warm front coming or a cold front?) I would hit it with Cutrine Plus in the low 50°F range if there was a warming trend coming.
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Hopefully Rex will see this and let me know what he thinks about that.. I'm gonna come up short on time here when this weather clears with more ponds to build for fish I've got spoken for and still maintain pond #1.
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The less algae (phytoplankton) in the water, the more P will be suspended in the water for the alum to work on (less tied up in the algae). Lets see what Rex says, I'm more inclined to use 300#/150# per Ac/Ft water.....
Depending on the weather trend (is a warm front coming or a cold front?) I would hit it with Cutrine Plus in the low 50°F range if there was a warming trend coming. That's kinda why I want to hear back from Rex. The first year I did 350#/150# and it was sufficient but I had strong flow-through about a month later and the nutrients have never really been utilized since, so it's been a green factory situation for a good part of last 2 yrs.
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The less algae (phytoplankton) in the water, the more P will be suspended in the water for the alum to work on (less tied up in the algae). Lets see what Rex says, I'm more inclined to use 300#/150# per Ac/Ft water.....
Depending on the weather trend (is a warm front coming or a cold front?) I would hit it with Cutrine Plus in the low 50°F range if there was a warming trend coming. That's kinda why I want to hear back from Rex. The first year I did 350#/150# and it was sufficient but I had strong flow-through about a month later and the nutrients have never really been utilized since, so it's been a green factory situation for a good part of last 2 yrs. Send him a PM, and if you don't hear back soon, let me know, I have his phone number.
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Hey Rainman, I am going to pick your memory here, but do you know how this stream/waterfall was built? I assume there is a pump of some sort that pushes water to the top and it just flows back down into the main pond? I am wanting to do something very similar when I build my 2 acre pond, and am looking for as much info as I can get. Thanks! ![[Linked Image from i201.photobucket.com]](http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa4/Rainman_pics_2007/1061.jpg)
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Hi! It was a trench dug out for the waterfall with plastic liner and landscaping rock and a small pool at the top of the trench with a pond liner....There is a half or one horsepower submersible sump pump in the main pond with the output line running under the trench that was dug
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