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Originally Posted By: DanaL
Hi all. I'm Dana from southeastern NC. My husband and I own most of a pond that has more complications then we know how to deal with. A few months ago someone unknown tore out the spillway which wasn't on our property, and since then we have been trying to figure out which agency can definitively say what the regulations are regarding the land and stream, and how to proceed with repairs. I had no idea this site existed, and I now have hope this can be figured out!


Hi Dana...welcome to the forum!!

This is pure speculation, but from what I understand, the spillway on your "shared" pond rests on adjoining property owned by someone else. That's a tough situation. In most cases, my understanding is, that individual is responsible for upkeep/maintainance on any portion of the pond that's on their property. If they decided, for whatever reason, they no longer want a pond on their land, they can rip out the spillway and drain it, even if the majority of the pond is on you!

Unfortunately, about the only way to resolve the problem is to build a new dam/spillway on your property. A very costly endeavor, but that would give you complete control over the pond on your land.

I've heard many members here advise against having anything to do with so called "shared" ponds, simply because of issues like this, as well as any management issues that co-owners may differ on. You spend gobs of $$$ on stocking fish, structure and habitat just to have your neighbor invite the entire family over for a fish fry....on your dime.

I hope someone will come on and say I dont know what I'm talking about. Good luck, and please, keep us informed on whats going on.

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Hi Dana,

Welcome to PBF!

Sorry for your problem. My first effort would be to get in touch with the owner of the land with the spillway and find out why it was removed and see if you can work out an amicable solution.

Good Luck,

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Hi. We are two sisters born and raised in suburbia, near Toronto. At the age of 52 and 50, we pooled our resources and purchased a farm property 100 kms north of my work location.
I owned a horse and love the country life and wanted to care for my horse and have some peace and quiet. Who knew farm country is not quiet?
We both continued to work which had its own challenges. Now we are both retired!
The 50 acre farm produces organic forage, ie. grass hay. The property came with a 3/4 acre pond, likely surface water but may or may not have a spring. The pond is at the opposite end of the farm about 1 km away. It was completely clean around the edges, with gravel and a small "beach" area of sand. I mean it was bare.
Ten years later it is overgrown with grass, shrubs qnd is beginning to fill in with aquatic plants. I need some help to clean it up. Not to the former sterile pond but usable for swimming and wildlife. It doesn't support fish, no aeration- no power out there.
That's our story, we are hoping to learn things. Thank you for adding us.

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Welcome, Kellyann. You should start a thread with a pic or two and let the Pond Boss members get to work smile

I would guess you don't need much aeration with all the aquatic plants, they create DO all on their own. I am sure there are a few bugs and skeeters though and stocking some minnows might improve the beach experience by knocking those numbers down. They also attract birds of prey, if you are into wildlife viewing.

Just to move water around you could put in a solar fountain/pump. Any movement of the water will improve the swimming quality. I would suggest keeping as many plants in and around the pond to keep the water healthy without steady aeration.


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Hi my name is Chancy me and my wife bought a section of land in Pattison Mississippi. It has a 5 acre pond on it and we have been reading a bunch of info on you’ll site that has helped us out alot with the pond. Still alot to lean and thanks for excepting us.

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Welcome Chancy and Wife.


It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Thanks for allowing me to join. I grew up in North Texas and recently acquired some property near Farmersville, TX. This property was owned by my great-grandparents (once upon a time) and both my great-grandfather and grandfather did a bit of pond work.

I am currently looking @ expanding/reworking the existing pond, but I'm just getting into it.

It's around 17 acres. Any suggestions on how I might go about assessing the cost of a pond rework are appreciated.

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Area needed for 1-acre pond (more or less). Is this the recommended size?

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A couple of considerations James. Generally, reworking means breaking the dam, draining and silt removal. Drying it out is step one. Due to built up muck, that can take a long time. The junk on the bottom will be the consistency of pudding and isn't machinery friendly.

The size of a new pond is dependent on runoff area. Well, there's also rain.


It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Thanks for the tip; it makes sense. I hadn't considered the years of build-up at the bottom. All things considered, it might be better just to dig a new one and fill in the old one...sounds like to me.

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I live in Utah but own a family place in southern Vermont with a shallow pond of about one acre. Recently overcome with leeches, which makes swimming very unpleasant. Any ideas for getting rid of the leeches(or at least controlling them to a minimum)would be appreciated.

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Welcome VT! Do you have fish in the pond? Pumpkinseed Sunfish are known to eat leeches voraciously.


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Keep in mind that a 50 to 100 year flood plain does not flood once every 50 to 100 years. Rather, there is a one to two percent chance it will flood each year.

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Hi I'm Bill from South Central Michigan. Dug my pond myself last fall. It is about 1/2 acre pond about 8 feet in the deepest areas. Stocked it with about 4 dozen minnows, 10 bass, and about 75 bluegill in the Spring. Well, here it fall and I have huge schools of minnows and baby bluegill and now that the water is clearer I noticed the bass spawned too. I counted about a dozen new 1/2 lb bass patrolling the shore line for minnows and baby bluegills. They must have eaten well this last summer. Looks like the bigger bass are deeper. Next year I'm thinking I'm going to have a bluegill explosion and will have to harvest. I feed the bluegill the purina game fish chow during the summer. The bluegill seem to really like it.

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Welcome cafe shorts. Congrats on building it youself. What kind of equipment did you use? You got any pictures of your place. Dock, riprap, zipline lol.


The people who say I can't do it can just sit the @^#% down and watch me. Friends call me Rusto I also subscribe to pond boss mag. http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=504716#Post504716
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Welcome cafe shorts (bill). I have to ask what's with the name? Congrats on building it youself. What kind of equipment did you use? You got any pictures of your place. Dock, riprap, zipline lol.


The people who say I can't do it can just sit the @^#% down and watch me. Friends call me Rusto I also subscribe to pond boss mag. http://forums.pondboss.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=504716#Post504716
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Used a John Deere 650 bulldozer and and Komatsu 220 excavator. The bulldozer was about 11 tons and the excavator was 22 tons with s 22 foot reach. Learned alot; it's more than just a hole in the ground. Bulldozers are slow, but let that blade go to deep and it will throw you out of the cab. The excavator you have to watch when working in water; the mud splashes and splatters, and it has stones in the mud...smash out a window pretty easy.

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Hello my name is Jim Reeves I live in Hubbard Texas and I have been building a pond or well 3 into one lol. I started with a small pond that was on my place when i bought it. Then I found a deal on a D6 Bulldozer played with it and sold it. Then a good friend said my Brother has a D4 and a D2 so we started digging, now i have about a ac and 1\2 size pond that i am really proud of. and it still needs work. You don't know how much dirt you have until you start moving it wow. I was shooting for 20 to 25 deep water I am happy with the 18 that i got. I still got dirt to get rid of lots of dirt realy. and some of the prettiest yellow clay you ever seen. LOL


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Welcome Jim


It's not about the fish. It's about the pond. Take care of the pond and the fish will be fine. PB subscriber since before it was in color.

Without a sense of urgency, Nothing ever gets done.

Boy, if I say "sic em", you'd better look for something to bite. Sam Shelley Rancher and Farmer Muleshoe Texas 1892-1985 RIP
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Welcome to the forum Jim.


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Hello,

Just signed up. We are now living on a new property with a couple of small ponds. Now that the house stuff is wrapping up it is time to start working on the ponds. The best pond is under 1/2 acre but looks fairly deep. We started cleaning it up around the bank, etc. My next step is to kill several large willows around the bank. I plan to accomplish this by girdling them. I also plan to get some bluegill shortly to get a food base down for a few bass in the future. I look forward to learning from this site.

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Welcome to the forum. Good to get rid of willows.


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Welcome from deep east Texas!!


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Welcome! Do you know what fish are currently in the pond? You might also want to get a water quality analysis done, with special emphasis on alkalinity & hardness.


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