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jludwig #273486 11/10/11 04:36 PM
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Yes, I thing the drought was even worse to the south of our Kansas City area. Glad you got it filled up most of the way.

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Ready for winter!! Had two cords of hedge delivered this past weekend giving us a total of almost four cords to start the winter.



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Burn Baby, Burn!!!


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"She took another microscopic bite of her sandwich, then pushed it away. Maybe she absorbed nutrients from her surroundings."

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I bet that stuff burns hot. It is the most dense wood that I've ever worked with. I would hate to be the guy that cuts it.


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Dave, you are so right - hedge (Osage Orange)is a really dense wood and has about the highest of heating value of all woods. In this area hedge is trash tree and grows abundantly. In the rural areas around here some people do a lot of their heating with hedge. Since our cabin has only a fireplace for heating it's great that we can readily get hedge.

Here are some energy densities for wood.
Osage Orange 33
Hickory 28
Oak 27
Ponderosa Pine 15

The first year of the cabin Scott and I tried to cut our own wood. We spent an entire day cutting hedge and got about 3/4 of a cord. Around here we can have hedge delivered and stacked for around $175 a cord so we each earned about $11 per hour. At that point we decided we would be better off sticking to our day jobs smile.

We build such hot fires that we had to have our grates custom made out of 1 inch square steel. We melt anything you can commonly buy.


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Lyle, I used to make my own knives and, on a couple of occasions, I used bois d'arc for the handles. Beautiful wood. However I couldn't shape it with a carborundum stone on a grinder. It just scorched. I had to use a rasp. Never again.

Prior to the invention of barbed wire (bob wahr), it was planted closely on the edge of fields as a fence for livestock. Nothing got through it. I once read that the seeds were more expensive by weight than gold.


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Wow, amazing place you guys have built. I was having a serious case of pond envy until I realized I am satisfied with what I recently dug especially since I never thought it would ever happen for us!

Great work you have done, it must be hard to go back to work after spending a weekend there.

I wish more of my family was healthy to enjoy our addition. My son is the only kid under 17 in the extended family, and my parents are both ill (my mom has ALS, horrible!). Treasure your time when all are healthy and never take it for granted! You are truly blessed.

Send some of that Osage our way! I heat primarily with wood and was happy to get about 50% hickory this year. Only problem with hickory is it is very high in ash content. I am constantly having to clean out the stove as compared to maple/cherry/ash.

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Lyle try railroad rails for a grate. They work great and last a long time. I have one set that is 30 years old in the fire place.
















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Dave, yes we have a lot of hedge rows around here - Osage Orange thrives here. So now it has spread out beyond the rows and can take over pasture land if the land is not maintained.

Liquidsquid (not sure what to call you) thanks for your nice comments. We have been fortunate in having family able to really enjoy our lake and cabin.

Good idea Eric. I wonder where one could get rails. This spring I had two new grates welded up so we have one in reserve.

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Lyle, I'm sure I could get you rails, but I have no idea how to get them down to you. I have a couple of neighbors that work for the railroad.


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Another use for Osage Orange.... A buddy of mine makes these by hand in his workshop. He kills deer every year with his, but since I don't hunt whitetails, mine just hangs on the wall, except for when I practice with it. It's a 5 foot bow with a 60lb draw. It will flat out drive an arrow.

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Impressive bows!!

Eric, with my backup grate I've probably got 6 or 8 years covered. Then maybe I can find some local rails.

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Beautiful wood. I'm not real sure how to treat dense wood but bodark has one potential problem. Years after being cut it can dry and crack. I had one old wood bow explode when I drew it. Sparky, I would look into treating it on a periodic basis.

BTW, the 4th picture shows an interesting notch or something. What is that for?

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It's just a fissure in the wood. Not quite a knot, more of an irregularity. My friend starts off with osage logs, 6" or so in diameter and around 6' long. He splits them lengthwise into quarters, then dries them for awhile.

His shop is full of bows in various stages of completion, from raw staves with the bark still on, to finished units. He claims the most heartbreaking aspect of construction is when you pour countless hours into shaping a bow, only to uncover
a critical defect in the wood that renders it junk... it goes from a functional work of art to kindling for the stove in just a few minutes.

He assured me that the fissure in my bow would have no impact on it's functionality, since it ran with the grain. So far so good after 7 years. I have wondered about the bow drying out, though. I need to ask him if I should treat it with something.

P.S.... Happy Thanksgiving, fellow Pondmeisters. I hope you all get to enjoy time with family and friends.

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That fella with the visor is one handsome guy

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For sure the family Christmas party at the cabin is a highlight of the year for me. I'm hoping that an old fashioned Christmas tradition is being established that the kids will have fond memories of for the rest of their lives. And I'm hoping that when the kids are young adults they will insist on the tradition being upheld.

So first need to make the decorations for the Christmas Tree.


And then go cut the tree - with a late basketball game and the sun setting at 5pm the tree was cut in the dark this year. The kids all took turns in sawing down the tree.




Back to a warm fire


And a good dinner


And then the presents!!!






But we can't forget the lake. That's what started all this!!!
A hard working crew breaking ice the next morning. Even in wintertime kids still like to play with water!!


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Thanks for sharing ! Nothing like home for the holidays. Watch those kids on the ice.
















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Pretty neat Lyle. Kids at Christmas are special.


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They are trained to not be on ice but we do keep an eye on them. And yes, kids do make Christmas special.

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Wine Tour: I know Kansas is not known as a big wine producing state but there are now almost 30 vineyards and wineries in the state. Recently we had a party at the cabin and combined it with a winery tour. A 14 mile drive from the cabin can encompass three wineries with the closest only 2 miles from the cabin. All three grow their own grapes and all three have tasting rooms. We had a good time seeing the wineries and tasting their products. Some of the wine was surprising good and we picked up a few bottles to enjoy with dinner that evening.







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Any new updates from the pond?

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Mike, after a very busy December at the farm there has been very little going on in January and February. Probably March will be slow also but we're planning a very busy April, May, June. April will be the big “get ready for summer” month while May and June will be the biggest activity months of the year. Late May and early June are the most beautiful weather of the year for Kansas and I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else those months.

Projects for the spring include a big load of gravel and beach work, some parking lot work by the garage, tree trimming, and mowing will be getting started. I also want to transfer a bunch of dirt from the big dirt pile to the back slope of Crawdad Pond. Additionally we plan to install a cell phone antenna with a repeater as cellular phone and internet signals down at the cabin are weak.

Some memories from last summer to get us ready for the upcoming warm weather.












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Lyle,

On the cell phone antenna/repeater are you using Wilson Electronics? I installed one last year and it works great. If you want to expand to internet also look into a cradlepoint router with a 3G/4G usb dongle.


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Good feedback. Yes, I was looking at using the Wilson and using their Yagi antenna mounted on the cabin's roof. Using their repeater I can use my computers wireless card for internet as well as my Motorola Zoom tablet.

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I sure you know this, you need to point the antenna at the cell tower giving you service. You can find this a couple of different ways. You can download a signal strength app and walk around outside the cabin and see where you get the strongest signal. Hopefully this works for you, it didn't for me since I have 3 towers all roughly the same distance away. Two of them are from my provider so I focused on them. I went out and found the GPS location of them (drove to them and recorded it). I picked one that appeared to be a clearer view based on terrain between the house and the cabin. Using GIS tools (Expert GPS) I loaded the GPS location of the chosen tower and that gave my the compass direction to point the antenna at.

The reason I have the cradlepoint router is that I have internet cameras at the farm that allows me to keep an I on the place and email me when they detect motion. I also have a weather station at the farm that can be viewed on the internet at

http://www.weatherlink.com/user/lassig/index.php?view=main&headers=1


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